11mo ago

Dress by Pizzacakecomic

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Man, I wish Pizzacake would join Lemmy.
- Seriously. Her and Hollering Elk were some mainstays on the old place.
  
  Yep. I'm a patron of Elk and it's always disheartening to see them ask everyone to boost it on reddit. I understand it's their best platform, but it'd be nice for other platforms to also be utilized. I mostly just don't see Pizzacake anymore unless I open instagram.
  
  Did you send a patreon message asking about it? Might mean more coming from a dedicated fan.
  
  Oh man, Hollering Elk, that's another I sorely miss. She's fucking epic.
- I def wish more artists(like Pizzacake) would join. I check r/comics often on Libreddit and its nice to see them interact and a good way to find new underrated creators.
- Why? That's her comic right there? What does that achieve other than bringing her 'other' business here?
  
  In general having more original creators here posting their own work consistently is a good thing if we want to grow the platform.
  Showing that it can be good to post here for creators will make more creators want to post here leading to an overall improvement in this community.
  
  Quality over quantity, imo.
  
  Comic artists have a big interest in creating consistent quality content... Because it's like their whole job...
  While not everyone has the same tastes, so some comics (like this one for example) aren't something everyone wants to see, it's better for the creator to be here posting it so the individual user can just block her and never see them again. With the creator posting them they all come from the same source vs with random people posting where you have to stamp out each individual one.
  
  Why?
  
  One of the big problems people have with Lemmy atm is the lack of content. Convincing people that posting here is a good thing will pretty much entirely remove that. Plus comic makers very much have an interest in keeping the content QUALITY high as well so it won't just be more posts... It'll be more high quality posts.
  
  This is a link aggregation website. It doesn't matter who posts the content. You're thinking of OnlyFans.
  Which in this case is appropriate.
  
  That's not responding to literally anything I said.
  You're right. It doesn't matter who.
  However, people who make and want to share content... Tend to make and share content...
  Something that's good for a link aggregation site...
  
  It really isn't. Self promotion is pretty terrible for a link aggregation site. You used to be limited in the ratio of what you could post between yours and other content. Then The Other Site decided it was social media. Now you want here to be social media too. No thanks 👍
  
  It's got social (comments) And it's got media (some posts)
  Therefore it is.... idk I don't feel like finishing the thought tbh
  
  No, it isn't. Because, crucially, you're not supposed to care who the other people are. By your definition if 'social media', my Geocities guest book was social media.
  
  Nobody cares WHO posts the thing. The important part is that people post.
  Link aggregation sites need links to aggregate and those links need to be posted by SOMEONE.
  People who make the things being linked tend to be more likely to post the thing in the link.
  I have no idea how this is controversial. Why is posting your own memes/comics worse than posting someone else's content?
  If it doesn't matter who posts it then there's literally no difference here except that more content is posted to Lemmy when the comic authors themselves are on the platform.
  
  She didn't post it. This is the first Pizzacake comic I've seen on here since I joined. Were she here I'd follow her and get everything.
  
  If she joined Lemmy then I could block her account and I wouldn't have to see her comics (as I did on Reddit). As it stands I don't really want to block OPs account since they post and comment lots of different stuff. It's nice to be able to block a specific creator from their own account rather than play whack-a-mole with freebooters.
  And before people start saying I'm misogynist or something, I'm not. There are plenty of women webcomic artists I like. Extraordinary Comics and War and Peas just to name a couple. I just find pizzacake to be incredibly boring, low hanging fruit and barely even funny at all. Not trying to hurt feelings, I just don't like her stuff and prefer to block it from my feed.
  
  Wow. I’m pleasantly surprised there is someone else here who shares a similar opinion in those comics. There just incredibly cringy. It’s hard to put a fine point on it, but you nailed it.
  Low hanging fruit.
  Not everything needs to be complicated, but this is lowest common denominator or obvious pandering for likes. It’s borderline embarrassing.
  
  Yes exactly. And to be fair I actually kinda like her art style. It's just that her jokes are so incredibly bland. It's been a while since I saw them regularly, by my recollection is that they're all either "DAE have unhealthy habits?" or "lol wardrobe malfunction amiright?"
  
  Absolutely. Fantastic art. Wet well done. But she needs a writer. BADLY.
  
  Calling any of the comics jokes is a bit of a stretch.
  
  I'm right there with you. Actually winced when I saw the name pizzacake just now. Pure garbage.
  
  Same. There isn't a single pizzacake comic in my folders and never will be. They're just not good. Every single one is painfully low hanging fruit. Like this "joke" would be used in a half second throwaway gag on a sitcom. It's not strong enough for a comic. But that's like... Every comic Pizzacake makes. That or half of her comics are just her complaining about something.
  Fucking pass.
  
  Upvote because you're just sharing an opinion and it isn't wrong.
  I like pizza cake, there are plenty of comics I don't like, why does anyone care who you don't like when all you're asking for is better curation tools.
  
  Yeah IDGAF if people like her comics. I just want to be able to block having to see them with a single click that doesn't also block an entire user who I might not mind seeing in other contexts.
  
  You could use an app that has a keyword filter like Boost. I use it to reduce the number of posts I see about certain topics or politicians. It isn't perfect, like if OP used the punchline as the title as so many like to do.
  
  and it isn't wrong
  You consider this freebooting?
  
  I don't understand the question
  
  Sorry, they said it was freebooting. OP kept the original watermarks in and didn't add any of their own. It felt fine. It doesn't feel like freebooting.
  
  As the OP, I appreciate not being blocked. I'm definitely not trying to freeboot or anything. My main goal with my entire account is to just boost the engagement on Lemmy in general and pizzacake is a creator a lot of people enjoy despite the comics being fine (generally the easiest option with every punchline).
  More people using Lemmy consistently means we're more likely to grow as a platform which will in turn improve other areas and so on and so forth. Especially with this being an open source project, more users means more people willing/able to help on the codebase itself so the entire platform improves as a result.
  Ultimately I agree with you that her joining herself would be better because you can just block her and be done with it. Her popularity would also probably bring engagement and yada yada as previously said.
  Realistically I'll probably just not post her comics in the future since I hadn't heard about the annoying critic bashing stuff she did and I don't care enough about her work to try and hold on past annoying stuff.
  
  And before people start saying I’m misogynist or something, I’m not.
  I doesn't work that way bro. You clearly know something about yourself but you're trying to get one step ahead of it.
  People that aren't misogynistic don't have to defend against it beforehand.
  
  I'm pre-empting because I know both she and fans of hers have concocted this meme that anyone who doesn't like her comics is sexist.
  
  Like I said, it doesn't work that way. You are being extremely misogynistic if you have to declare that you're not before anyone even makes a reply.
  
  It does work that way. Grow up. You don’t make the rules everyone else follows.
  
  I bet you would have assumed I am a misogynist if I hadn't mentioned it at all in my initial comment above. Something about this comic artist specifically just brings out the most rabid mental gymnastics in people. As I said, I know that she encourages this behaviour too. Before I blocked her on Reddit I remember seeing a few of her comics where the "joke" was literally just "haha look at how dumb and sexist my haters are"
  
  I wouldn't have thought twice if you didn't make that point. IDGAF if you're a fan of the comic artist or style. I'm not a huge fan of this comic but it's cute and her ability to create as much as she does makes me respect her. I am a fan of the newspaper style comic strip format, she does it very well.
  People get rapid about her because they like her and her product.
  You bringing up misogyny says everything about YOU.
  You don't want people to go there? Don't start the process.
  
  The process was started when a pizzacake comic was posted. Pizzacake and their fans are notorious for calling someone sexist or misogynistic just because they don't like her comics. You have just proven that point.
  
  Thank for filling me in on why but you are wrong. I didn't know about that history but it doesn't matter.
  If you have to start a defense with "I'm not (something) but", you are indeed showing behavior of (something).
  
  I get what you're saying but I don't agree in this context. Especially when it's what pizza cake is known for. If you don't say you're not something, then you'll be called something anyway. That's probably what the commenter was saying. With that being said, just because someone says I'm not sexist doesn't automatically make them sexist believe it or not. If you don't not know the person and you've never seen how they interact with people and you're going off of one sentence, that's not very reasonable, don't you think? There's a difference between saying I'm not sexist but I don't like women and I'm not sexist but I don't like her comics. In the eyes of pizza cake fans, it's the same thing.
  
  I'm not racist but
  
  Why are you randomly bringing up not being a racist? Only a racist would say that!
  -your logic
  
  It absolutely does work that way… “bro.”
  The person you’re responding to clearly knows their audience here. And you kids LOVE grabbing your pitchforks and shouting “[PLACEHOLDER]ist!” So they were clearly getting ahead of the problem before it became one.
  But here’s you anyway.
  
  In this case, they are pre-empting the type of attack the pizzacake creator is known for
  
  When a person it criticising her, I can see why they would feel compelled to . Her defenders can be very aggressive.
  
  Her detractors seem to be as active.
  
  True, she is very polarizing it seems.
  
  She also tends to pretty active in the comments.
  
  If by that you mean absolutely flip her shit over the most mild and milquetoast of criticism, then yeah sure
  
  Yeah. There's a reason that I have never posted her comics and never will. Beyond the fact that her comics have never once made me laugh (I do not understand how this comic is supposed to be funny), she would get really antagonistic towards people and throw entire fits. That's not the type of behavior I am a huge fan of and certainly not the behavior I want to see on lemmy.
  Let her stay on reddit.
  
  Yeah. She accuses anyone that doesn’t like her comics of being sexists. As if it’s impossible to just not like her shit because it’s boring and cringy.
  
  I can't find any evidence of arsey-ness in her comments on Reddit. Are you shit-stirring?
  
  Yes, yes they are, it’s funny since they do the exact same things here on Lemmy they claim they don’t want.
  And they moderate with that childish attitude too… this place is going to shit fast.
  
  I don't accuse people of being sexist when they don't like my posts. So, no. I'm not "doing the same thing on Lemmy".
  You, however, were banned for repeatedly harassing multiple moderators, were banned by admins for repeatedly abusing the report function, banned by /c/Technology for being repeatedly harassing and posting inflammatory comments. Bro, the modlog is visible to everyone. You were banned for childish and inappropriate behavior. It isn't moderating with a childish attitude to hold you accountable to yours.
  Grow up and accept responsibility for the ban you received over a month ago.
  
  I was banned by a thin skin mod who couldn’t accept that they were wrong and banned me for misinformation while they spewed their own. Which allowed them to control the dialogue after.
  This also proves my point verbatim. Thanks.
  I could also dig up some of your comments about how you’ve had a bad day and lost it on people and your mod duties… but you’ve probably deleted them and this isn’t the place for it.
  Just pointing out the hypocrisy of someone who really shouldn’t be in a mod position.
  Edit for the edit… bloody hell guy…. Apparently “report of a use button” means reporting 3 people on a dead community, the admins here are a joke as well. Had a discussion with one about you like I said I would, went well actually.
  
  I was banned by a thin skin mod who couldn’t accept that they were wrong and banned me for misinformation while they spewed their own. Which allowed them to control the dialogue after.
  
  Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.... That's why you were banned from multiple communities and by multiple mods and admins over the course of multiple months. Because of a thin skin mod. A mod who moderates exactly one of those communities.
  Whatever helps you sleep at night.
  
  Thank you for proving my point.
  You banned me for a couple days for “rule breaking” or pointing out your hypocrisy for misinformation. You than permabanned me for “mod abuse” for calling you out.
  Thin skinned and childish mod behavior, multiple people called you out and you removed all comments.
  Of course I can’t prove any of this, we only have you to say this is what happened, but of course this thin skinned and childish mod won’t.
  I’m moving on from this, not the place, but it’s atleast evidence for the admin for you.
  
  No. I am not. You simply need to look harder, or really just look at all. If you're claiming that you cannot find any evidence then you simply didn't look. Merely googling her name and the word controversy brings up more than enough examples.
  
  controversy
  See this was the missing jigsaw piece. I was scrolling through her comments - I didn't realise it was a big controversy.
  For anyone else: https://www.reddit.com/r/JustUnsubbed/comments/12rv1y9/just_unsubbed_from_rpizzacakecomics_i_genuinely/
  
  Yeah that's a good thing with some artists I suppose.

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