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I'm talking about Gaza. I've been there too, once they elected Hamas their fate was sealed. The potential was there before they fucked themselves for generations. Israel left a lot of infrastructure in place When they pulled out.

It wouldn't have been Tel Aviv, they would never achieve the Tech power of that city but they could have been a real nice vacation spot.

No, not really. Nazi Germany lasted from 1933-1945.

From 1933 to 1939, things were mostly non-lethal: boycotting and vandalizing shops, banning Jews from public service or practicing law, harassing Jews, etc. The basic idea was to get Jews to emigrate out of Germany.

The first open ghettos were established in 1939, while the massacres really started in 1941.

If you're going to compare Gaza to part of Nazi Germany, the best comparison is to the closed ghettos that were established in 1940, like the Warsaw ghetto. The period between the establishment of the closed ghettos and the beginning of the mass killings was way, way shorter than the mass killings. Of the 12 year span of Nazi Germany, the best comparison is to a period that lasted for about a year or so, 7 years in.

Nazi Germany really isn't a great historical comparison to Israel. Honestly, a better comparison is to the US's treatment of Native Americans, though it's still not a perfect analogy. The dream of Israel's far right isn't to murder every last Palestinian, it's manifest destiny; an Israel stretching from the river to the sea even if there's a few small reservations on it.

Because Jews don't need Palestinians like White South Africans needed Black people for low wage jobs. So they can genocide them without a thought.

Jews were in high positions in the Arab world and iirc lived well. Much of the blame for the rise in anti-semitism is almost purely down to Zionism. Jews came to be seen as colonial collaboraters with the great powers against that region. In Algeria they literally were - the French were able to create a two-tier colonial society by giving Jewish Algerians who were native to Algeria citizenship and denying Muslims the same by claiming cultural incompatibility. Hence, Jews became a colonial force in that country.

In Iraq, Zionists terrorised the Arab (Iraqi!) Jewish community there by bombing Synagogues and cultural centers and collaborated with Iraqi nationalists to force Iraqi Jews into leaving for Israel.

So there are different experiences here, but almost all is down to colonialism and zionism.

Imagine you walked into the camps and saw the smattering of walking skeletons that were left from the multiple thousands of people who had preceded them into the gas chambers or ovens.

I think it's hard to really imagine what level of trauma that would cause, and how shocking it would be to see those images.

I think that is the foundation of a powerful bond between the West and Israel, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

I find it extremely troubling that Netanyahu and his cronies have said that the only solution to the issues they are having is to exterminate all Palestinians (assuming that quote is accurate) and I do think that their actions are horrifying and deserve criticism, but that's the government. I have no issue with the people of Israel. I believe that in part these actions are Bibi covering his own ass for not stopping nor even anticipating a massive attack from a known enemy. I understand his desire to root out Hamas, but there has to be a way to do so with more accuracy and less civilian misery and death.

Jesus Christ, so 600 civilians? And I'm guessing it's over 10k in Palestine now? I'll have to look for a source to verify this but if you have one in the meantime that'd be appreciated.

The Israeli government is straight up evil, maybe.

The Israeli people have been targets of precise statements from multiple neighbors over the years telling them they would be exterminated as soon as the opportunity arose.

Put yourself in that position and tell me you wouldn't support a right wing militant government that ran on a platform of hard borders and strong military.

How many wars of aggression have been waged against Israel since its founding? How many terrorist attacks? If the nations surrounding them put down their weapons and accepted them, there would be peace in the region. If the Israelis put down their weapons they would be murdered en masse.

How would you like a populace that came within a hair's breadth of systematic extermination to react when they move to an area and are immediately painted as liars by neighbors who are Holocaust deniers and express the desire to finish the job?

Also if your argument is strong enough there's no need to add that last part. It makes you seem weak and devalues any merit in your words, of which there is plenty. Nobody wants to see people getting hurt, but to fail to differentiate between the Israeli government and the Israeli people, and to ignore the situation they are in and the precursor to the establishment of the state of Israel, is a mistake.

You mean the less than 1 million Jews in the British Mandate in 1948 who accepted the UN resolution for 2 States and were attacked by the Arabs in the British Mandate and all the neighboring Arab countries? I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means. SMH