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This is really hard for me but I have had to put my foot down in recent times. It still makes me uncomfortable but I just can’t support this anymore. If I’m sitting down at a restaurant with a server I tip 20 - 25% but I’m tired of tipping for takeout and I absolutely refuse to give extra when checking out at a store.
- 20-25% is still pretty excessive. I try to stay around 10-15%.
  We have let tips creep up a lot in recent years.
  
  That's the golden number for me, but only if I eat in the damn place, not takeout. I also tip gas station employees only when they calibrate my tires or wipe my windows.
  
  Honestly I dont use percentages unless the meal is insanely expensive. I never tip at something as simple as a coffee shop or quick-dine-and-go thing (unless I'm a regular). Otherwise they get 5, 10, or 20 depending on service and food (regardless of total meal cost). My favorite places always get a little extra (5 -> 7, 10-> 15, 20 -> 25)
  
  In my opinion:
  0% = absolutely abysmal service
  10% = below average service
  15% = average, expected amount of service 20% = above average or excellent service
  That's my tipping policy.
  
  Why would you tip for before average service?
  
  Not tipping at all is seen as rude in the US culture.
  Besides, there's a difference between below average service and absolutely horrible service. For example, there was one time years ago at a restaurant where my family went out to eat. First, our waiter got my mom's order wrong. Then, when she mentioned it to our waiter, he picked up the incorrect item off the plate with his hands. I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting as it was years ago, but I think our entire meal (five people) ended up being comped. We were not happy.
  
  Same. It gets a little skewed towards higher % at lower dollar amounts though. I might have a $8 meal with a water and leave $2. It's worth more than $1 and I'm not messing with change.
  
  This is my policy if it's a sit-down restaurant with servers making minimum wage... I absolutely refuse to tip fast food. Because I work in fast food, and over time I've seen wages get more and more skewed towards dependence on tips. It's insane. Just give us a living wage, is that too much to ask of this capitalist meat grinder?
  
  Same. The point of a tip is to tip the waiter, not anyone else. Tipping someone who's taking my order at the counter just seems weird. Same with tipping in a mobile order app.
  
  15% was standard in Canada, 20% in the USA
  
  52, American. 15% was always standard in my world until recent talk of 20%.
  
  Yep, 20% is definitely NOT standard. It is too damn high. I give 20% only when a server is freaking amazing.
  
  Really? I was always told Canadians pass as being cheap because we usually give 15% when we go to the USA 🤔
  
  I remember 5-10% being standard when I was a kid, although I wasn’t the one paying.
- It's intended to make you feel guilty. That's the point. "Make someone feel uncomfortable enough to give you money." Don't give in. Stay strong.
  And 15% for table service is absolutely fine.
- What about at a coffee shop or something similar?
  
  I don’t go to coffee shops but I wouldn’t tip there either. I don’t think I should be responsible for paying employees a living wage. Charge me appropriately for the item and pay your fucking employees.
  
  Cash is the answer here, I might leave 25p in the saucer.
  
  I agree that's how it should be, but how things should be doesn't pay the bills. Don't take your anger out on the employees. Those are the only people you're hurting.
  
  And don’t put the blame on the customer. Demand better wages. I’m not taking it out on anyone.
  
  You not tipping is not at all the same thing as demanding better wages and you know it.
  
  First of all, I don’t go to coffee shops which is what we were talking about so the point is moot. Second, the fact that you seem to think it is the customer in the wrong and not the employers shows just how brain washed you are by corporations. People have been unionizing and striking across the country for living wages and that is the answer, not shaming the customer. Wake up.
  
  Jesus fucking christ my dude. Not going to coffee shops is a valid option, but since you apparently haven't noticed there are not yet living wages in most of the country. Either don't use the services or tip until there are. Have some goddamn class solidarity and don't force people to work for your benefit for poverty wages until things get better. Don't pretend your greed is socialism.

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