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Wait, has this fucking guy decided to involve himself in the Continuation War?
- No, this was the Finnish sniper during the Winter War. He wanted to serve in the Continuation War but he was dismissed and barred entry because of the extent of the injuries he suffered, and because his death would have been a propaganda disaster.
  
  He was that close, without any reluctance, to commit to supporting the Nazis? So much so for fucking national defense...
  
  Finland knew what side of the war they were on.
  
  CW: Nazi imagery
  
  Hmmm I wonder what side that was 🤔
  
  Granted, they did start using the swastika 20 years before the Germans did. But the fact they didn’t change it during or after the war is very telling.
  
  Wasn't it the same guy that got both countries interested in the symbol?
  
  It turns out you’re right lmao
  The guy was the brother in law to Herman Goering and gifted planes to Finland so they used the symbol.
  
  the anticommunists were nazis?!
  
  Eric von Rosen, literal Swedish Nazi. For fuck's sake. It's just so painfully blatant.
  
  It has been changed since (in 1945) and it's only used very rarely. I think there's some pride there about lot "letting Nazis ruin the logo". It was one of major Finnish national symbols prior to Nazis and used since like iron ages. So bit of pride involved there.
  Funny story. Finnish president Urho Kekkonen was visiting French president Charles de Gaulle and gave him a honory knighthood thing. Only problem, the symbolic necklace came with swastikas. Of course de Gaulle wasn't a huge fan of that and Finns, realizing the issue, later changed the necklace and sent him the new one. Giving de Gaulle a swastika necklace as a present, lol.
  
  It's not a Nazi symbol, it's just a symbol we got from a Nazi. No connection, move along, NATO IS GREAT NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS
  
  I mean it isn't a Nazi symbol. The specific use in air force comes from the count in 1918, way before Nazism was even a thing. And that's when Finnish Air Force adopted it. Nazism isn't a transitive property that goes back in time and up another branch of the tree into our air force symbol lol.
  NATO IS GREAT NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS
  Whut
  
  Uhhhhhh no… the air force roundel of the Finnish air force was only chosen because the brother in law to Herman Goering gifted Finland it’s first few fighters and he emblazoned them with the swastika because he liked the symbol.
  That same guy would later go on to help make the Nazi flag.
  
  The symbol itself has a long history in Finland, that's what I meant https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakaristi_Suomessa
  You're right about why the air force logo was chosen though, it came from that guy in 1918.
  
  The symbol itself has a long history in Finland, that's what I meant https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakaristi_Suomessa
  You're right about why the air force logo was chosen though, it came from that guy in 1918.
  
  used since like iron ages
  the first documented use I can see was a finnish artist called Akseli Gallen-Kallela in 1889
  The fucking iron ages huh?
  
  The Finns took a while to advance past the iron age, you'll have to forgive them.
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53249645
  replaced in 1945 eh?
  
  I don't know if you're joking or uninformed but that cross logo came from a Swedish count who donated the first plane to Finland in 1918. It's not Nazi imaginery.
  
  That guy became a prominent Nazi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_von_Rosen
  
  Two decades after Finnish air force had adopted it. Saying it's Nazi imaginery based on that would seem a bit strange, like the property of something being Nazi travels back in time.
  
  He was the Brother in law to Herman Goering lmaoooo. That “Swedish count” was a high ranking Nazi.
  
  Nazis weren't a thing in 1918, when the symbol was adopted.

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