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  • I'm native. Not Christian. That makes me pagan by default (I'm actually atheist, but respect my ancestors and what's left of my culture). My dad had a proper Indian funeral. I'm here. I'm honestly not sure what the right gets out of appropriating it. They don't respect nature. They seem intent on killing the world. That is the antithesis of our primary beliefs.

    • Paganism is used to describe Pre-Christian European religions. Many of which were destroyed by the various crusades in Europe.

      • I had to look it up. Looks like you're right. I've always thought that pagan referred to most of the non abrahamic religions. But I guess it's just for the white ones.

        • Technically Native American religions would be “Pagan” religions if Europe had contact with the Americas at that point. But paganism related more to the historical event of the European Crusades.

          But don’t forget that Europe had no contact with the Americas during the period that the European crusades were occurring, and there would be no contact for centuries, (like 700-400 years). So religions in other parts of the world were not affected or focused on.

          Something in me doubts a Tuetonic Crusader in 1200 would know what a Native American is, or what a “Shintoist” is, or a “Buddhist”.

          Paganism is just the umbrella that Christianity created that encompassed hundreds of religions that were completely unrelated and just happens to exist in the same continent.

    • I am fairly certain when they say Paganism they were talking specifically about European paganism, such as in old Norse and German culture.

      • I was thinking of the moron in the buffalo skin in the capitol riots. I've also met some charming individuals in real life who do similar things.

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