John Roberts Begs the Liberal Justices to Stop Criticizing the Court
The chief justice doesn’t like his conservative Supreme Court colleagues getting called out for judicial overreach.
The chief justice doesn’t like his conservative Supreme Court colleagues getting called out for judicial overreach.
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The beauty of this fediverse thing is, that... if you don't like it you can make your own instance and do the thing you want there instead. Bye.
You know, if you want to be a pain in the ass we can also kick you out of this place.
Is this really the content that we want for @news ?
There is an up/down vote button for you to express that POV on the post itself. I get what you're attempting to do, but as someone mentioned, this isn't Reddit you have open the ability to create your own @news. Hell, I encourage you to. A nonhomogeneous mix is actually healthier in the long run. And, at least for my part, now you have the answer to why someone down voted you.
Also, no one likes the explicitly @-ing folks who down voted you. Yes, you can see who down votes you but I feel, you should perhaps use the saying of "with great power comes great responsibility." Maybe ask "openly" why you're being down voted. @-ing the folks, and remember this is solely my subjective opinion, that's not cool.
Also, no one owes you an explanation of jack crap. And that applies "in general." Yes, it's better when someone explains their position to you and what not. But no one OWES you an explanation. I think that's what rubs me with the @-ing folks wrong here. None of those people HAVE TO explain themselves, it'd be great if they did, but you are not owed it and that is a very important distinction.
There is an up/down vote button for you to express that POV on the post itself.
NO.
There is a reason why we have different magazines with different names. Got to @USpolitics or @politicus. How many more political subs do you need? When we register for @news it's not to get yet another american political shenanigans. You really think that someone from Italy registered to @news to hear about what your governor or potus or whatever wizard said to his king? Use your magazines! What is wrong with you? We are not your audience.
Let's invite some people from lemmy.ml and see if you agree to follow their votes. They have news too, do you want to hear from them? Of course not! So change your tone.
Also, no one owes you an explanation of jack crap. And that applies "in general."
I don't care, I will keep callout you out on your bullshit. block me if you want. After all, you said yourself that there is an upvote/downvote button, well there is also a block button, please use it, but I will keep calling you out anyway. Post your political soap opera to your political magazine, end of the story.
@news describes itself as
Breaking news and current events worldwide.
America is in the world. As is Africa, Asia, South America, etc. Perhaps you should talk to the mods of @news and see if they won't change their rules for submissions. Maybe you want it limited to big, important, European, and most critically non-American news? The front page of that magazine currently has the earthshaking news that Italy is offering the Colosseum for Elon and Mark to duke it out in. And that Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen is fighting with Meta. And that a well known Oscar winner has died. Would none of those articles have been submitted before the Reddit migration?
SCOTUS is not held to any ethical standards and have appointments that last for life. The conservative court has gone off the rails on their latest rulings, arguably making discrimination legal, even on protected groups. This upends decades of protections for vulnerable groups that were targeted by fascist groups.
While Roberts is whining about criticism on what his court has done, the main topic of criticism is newsworthy in that it has real consequences.
The same groups that lean toward authoritarianism, also lean toward Putin being allowed to take Ukraine. This fight spills over to the rest of the world.
We do not care!
This is not news material. Keep it for USPolitics, or Politicus, or nonpartisan, or whatever political magazine is fit for. This is not newsworthy.
I'm thinking you should probably stop speaking on behalf of everyone. I am not American but I do care that millions of Americans are losing their rights. I care that US businesses got over a trillion in PPP loan forgiveness but that the same can't be extended to 40 million individuals and their student loans for education they are almost forced to have if they want a shot at making more than minimum wage and even then, it's not a guarantee.
I'm not a refugee but I care that the Greek government effectively let hundreds die rather than assist them.
I'm not French but I am interested in the riots happening there.
I'm not Russian, Ukrainian, or even European but I want to know what is happening with the occupation of Ukraine, the coup attempt, and what other countries are doing to ensure the Russia doesn't violate NATO and the repercussions if they do.
Why do you believe you get to narrow the scope of what is news on behalf of everyone else?
I'm thinking you should probably stop speaking on behalf of everyone. I am not American but I do care that millions of Americans are losing their rights. I care that US businesses got over a trillion in PPP loan forgiveness but that the same can't be extended to 40 million individuals and their student loans for education they are almost forced to have if they want a shot at making more than minimum wage and even then, it's not a guarantee.
Stop importing US problems in your own country. Nothing meaningful happens in your country? You still have to indulge into america politics even with the @news magazine? What is so hard with posting US political news in one of the US political magazines? Tell me!
Have a look at the frontpage of @news, we are at around 50% of american news and most of it is political.
I'm not a refugee but I care that the Greek government effectively let hundreds die rather than assist them.
I'm not French but I am interested in the riots happening there.
I'm not Russian, Ukrainian, or even European but I want to know what is happening with the occupation of Ukraine, the coup attempt, and what other countries are doing to ensure the Russia doesn't violate NATO and the repercussions if they do.
We can fill the frontpage of news with french political news, should we? Of course not.
At least post it in @politics. So far absolutely no one could argue why political news weren't posted to @political instead.
Again, why do you believe you get to narrow the scope of what news is to everyone else? You are welcome to create your own magazines that talk about exactly what you want and block the ones that aren't what you want to engage with.
And this magazine is @news.
Why don't YOU take your content and publish it into the magazine that was designed for it in the first place?
I will tell you: popularity! You don't want to read USpolitics because it's not popular, you want the buzz
Also, if you were a little bit coherent with what you said, you would agree with me. You said:
I'm not a refugee but I care that the Greek government effectively let hundreds die rather than assist them.
I'm not French but I am interested in the riots happening there.
I'm not Russian, Ukrainian, or even European but I want to know what is happening with the occupation of Ukraine, the coup attempt, and what other countries are doing to ensure the Russia doesn't violate NATO and the repercussions if they do.
So you pretend to care about what happens outside of the USA, but look at the results on news:
Zelensky, 5 upvotes
Uruguay, 3 upvotes
Sweden, 3 upvotes
Cambodia, 2 upvotes.
Israel 7
China 8
Australia 5
Germany 8
Scotland 7
uk 9
Colombia 5
meanwhile, prostitution in Maine 80
supreme court total around 500
See? This is american redditors pushing their political content in the news feed and pushing the content you wanted to see down the frontpage. What do you think of this?
If you haven't noticed yet, your opinion is the one in the minority here.
Still, my opinion is the only one justified. Read the comments, see by yourself. I gave a chance to anyone who downvoted me to voice his opinion and all I saw was miss and miss.
You really should care, though. What affects the value of the USD affects the global market, including the value of whatever currency you use. You should be hoping the US does not suffer an economic collapse due to a rise in fascist conservatism.
And the news about Ukraine, France, Sweden, Uruguay, Cambodia, Australia are in the single digits. So kbin is turning into reddit. In less than 3 weeks we are back at square one. And this is without the influx of the people who will be pushed away from reddit on July.
It was cool while it lasted.
Hmmm. I wonder why there are more posts about US news than Cambodian news. Why is that? Do you think it could be a conspiracy by thousands of users to flood the Fediverse with US news pieces to try to drown out all of the Cambodian news everyone would prefer to hear?
Or maybe the content you see is whatever is on people's minds, so they post it. Maybe you can post some Cambodian news instead of complaining about the lack of it. I'm interested in Cambodian news too, so please feel free to post all that sweet, sweet Cambodian news you are so upset about not seeing.
I wonder also if it might be because we are all reading news and conversing in English right now. Not very many of us can read Khmer.
you can use https://ground.news to find foreign news in english so you can share them easily. Sorted by quality and political orientation.
https://ground.news/article/3e3c078d-de55-4f8b-9731-8e6ed80cc1fd
Cambodia ruling party victory a sure bet as campaigning begins for general election
which gives another point of view leaning right, from Australia.
Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen has launched his ruling party's campaign for re-election in a poll that has been criticised as a sham after the main opposition party was prevented from running.
But of course if you all want to share what brand of cereals Donald Trump had for breakfast then please be my guest and post it as NEWS. But the best place to do it is reddit.
I looked up https://ground.news on your suggestion and immediately signed up. This is the site that I have wanted to find for years. Thanks
You said this back on July 2, how is it months later?
Hmmm. I wonder why there are more posts about US news than Cambodian news. Why is that? Do you think it could be a conspiracy by thousands of users to flood the Fediverse with US news pieces to try to drown out all of the Cambodian news everyone would prefer to hear?
I'm talking about the votes, not the number of posts. If you tuned down your ragemeter you would have figured it out by yourself.
Or maybe the content you see is whatever is on people's minds, so they post it. Maybe you can post some Cambodian news instead of complaining about the lack of it. I'm interested in Cambodian news too, so please feel free to post all that sweet, sweet Cambodian news you are so upset about not seeing.
Now who's arrogant? I'm glad that we've established this point. Thanks for answering btw.
Then quit whining and post the kind of content you want to see.
You quit whining and you go back to reddit.
You are the one whining here.
I based all my arguments on facts. All I got was people with feelings brushed in the wrong way. You going emotional is very telling of the situation. Seems like when someone is talking to you you take it as a feeling based action. Sometimes it's just conversation.
Why come to a place where the posts are voted upon by the users if you're just going to complain about people voting on the "wrong" things?
Why? Because they don't respect the tool, which splits the posts by theme and interests. For example USPolitics and news. I say this is not news worthy.
And why do YOU complain about someone discussing the tool with other users? Do something else, go outside, stop complaining about it, no one is forcing you.
But you understand all of it, don't you? You know exactly what I'm talking about.
To the three of you who downvoted me without a word of explanation: we can see who downvotes who on kbin.
So I ask you, why did you downvote me and why do you think that this guy talking to his fellow politicians is news worthy? We are not on an american website anymore, the rest of the world doesn't care about the american constant struggle and crying about politicians saying stuff.
Woooo internet tough guy here. Be careful everyone -- hes gonna call you out! o7 keyboard warrior, o7.
If you want to do the same thing you did on reddit then why did you leave reddit?
You've been here a whole 19 days, at least on this account. People likely assume you came from reddit as well.
Don't forget me too! 🤣
ok then. Answer my question.
You asked why you were downvoted. It's because of your arrogant attitude and trolling. But, I'll sometimes have some pity and feed the troll.
You asked why anyone outside the US should care what happens in the US. The answer is very simple. If the US experiences a collapse of some kind (which it might), it will have a profoundly negative effect on the value of currencies worldwide, including the EUR and GBP. So, no matter how much you hate it, the value of your currency is affected by the value of ours.
That's just one reason why you should care about the rise of conservatism and how it harms the U.S.
You asked why you were downvoted. It's because of your arrogant attitude and trolling.
You are the troll here, so change your tone: "Don't forget me too! 🤣"
You asked why anyone outside the US should care what happens in the US.
No, you read it wrong. I specifically talked about the nature of the post which was political. We already have magazines for politics, specially the US one, but the nature of the problem is politics seen as news. The US politics is and endless shitshow which doesn't qualify as news anymore. Breaking news! Trump called AOC FAT!
The answer is very simple. If the US experiences a collapse of some kind (which it might), it will have a profoundly negative effect on the value of currencies worldwide, including the EUR and GBP. So, no matter how much you hate it, the value of your currency is affected by the value of ours.
That must be the most ridiculous argument I've read so far. Look at this news that I just picked from the news magazine:
The Supreme Court will decide if abusive spouses have a right to own guns (vox.com)
Girlparts
The world is shaking! Suspense! Good thing that I've been informed about this one.
That's just one reason why you should care about the rise of conservatism and how it harms the U.S.
Keep it for @USpolitics
I'm downvoting you because you're being incredibly immature right now. People can disagree with you
Saying "how dare you downvote me, I can SEE IT!" and calling them out makes you look like a giant child. You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that's something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.
Downvoting and running away was a reddit thing, now you are accountable for your downvotes.
I have the maturity to ask for answer when people react to what I say. My question about sorting posts out of @news and moving them to @USpolitics is perfectly legitimate. I'm glad that some people took the time to answer so we can have a discussion, but so far among the handful of people who had the courage to put up a written argument I've read nothing convincing me that this post has its place in @news rather than in politics.
If all you want is a copy of reddit then please go back to reddit.You will have a barrage of US political news all day long.
You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that's something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.
Block me, be my guest, at least you won't be able to downvote me on sight anymore.
Many of us won't block you. We will just see you and feel sad for you.
Doing things like calling out someone's post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that's the kind of behaviour you're exhibiting right here. You're being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs. Just like Americans shouldn't only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn't only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don't like it, unsubscribe yourself.
Go touch some grass dude.
Doing things like calling out someone's post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that's the kind of behaviour you're exhibiting right here. You're being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs.
I'm not whining, I'm calling people out on their bullshit votes. @news is turning into political trash and you don't seem to care.
Just like Americans shouldn't only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn't only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don't like it, unsubscribe yourself.
I'm not closed, I already posted about foreign countries. And if you are not happy with people calling you out on your bullshit then go back to reddit where you can downvote incognito.
You can turn this place to shit if you want to but I won't remain quiet about it, dude...
I'm calling people out on their bullshit votes.
Okay, I've been staying out of this but now I just have to: what kind of extraordinary qualifications do you have to unilaterally decide which votes are valid and which are not? Is it as simple as any vote that disagrees with you is automatically "bullshit"?
Have you considered that people are just downvoting you and moving on because they feel that the flaws in your arguments are apparent enough that they can just click the down arrow without having to type a whole essay about it?
And really, why should anyone have to type out a whole response to justify clicking downvote? What makes your opinions so astronomically important that they deserve everyone's full intellectual energy or none at all?
Okay, I've been staying out of this but now I just have to:
What an entry!
what kind of extraordinary qualifications do you have to unilaterally decide which votes are valid and which are not? Is it as simple as any vote that disagrees with you is automatically "bullshit"?
I'm talking about very factual points: the usage of the tool that we are building now. Many of us have migrated because of the flaws of other media platforms.
Your position about "downvote" is like expression a feeling. For other people like me it's very factual. That's part of what I wanted to establish. It emotions vs facts all over again. The reaction I had were mostly based on feeling. Just like the content I'm seeing spammed here. Ragebait.
Have you considered that people are just downvoting you and moving on because they feel that the flaws in your arguments are apparent enough that they can just click the down arrow without having to type a whole essay about it?
And I gave them an opportunity to answer with arguments. That was the point. If they have such a big reason to downvote then let's go and say why. And the result is poof.... there was not much except feelings. This magazine is turning into a collection of ragebait. And now one of the default magazine of the alternative to reddit has fallen into the same trap that reddit laid to us: ragebait content. I wouldn't care if is was posted into USPolitics or politicus, but news, what, the whole planet???
I expected much better from the first wave of people who left reddit. In the end they just want more of the same ragebait.
And I know exactly what you are all going to say. "then go away if you don't like it". Yes, I don't like it, that's why I left reddit. I couldn't care less about your political shitshow non-stop circus which leaked thorough all the subs. You think people care about your senators killing a dog with their car? The people posting other news are now thrown down the frontpage so we can make more space for the latest Trumpstunt. And now you are getting out of the wood because you had too much! What a superhero you are.
Reddit has a solution to this. In addition to r/news there is r/worldnews, which prohibits US internal news/US politics. Something similar would be a good solution here too. Also, frankly, you have failed to explain how the article you're complaining about is politics rather than news. In the U.S. justices and judges are not politicians. Maybe they are where you live?
The destruction of queer rights in the US will harm me regardless of me ever setting foot in the country.
Don't be ridiculous.
I don't think they're being ridiculous to say that US politics has an impact outside of the US. To quote a former Canadian Prime Minister:
"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."
why do you think that this guy talking to his fellow politicians is news worthy?
I'm one one of the downvoters, so I'll try giving you an answer. As an American, it's newsworthy to me when the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is publicly calling out the other justices for behavior he deems unbecoming a justice. I had not realized that @news was specifically for European news? And I think perhaps YOU had not realized that in America, the supreme court is theoretically above politics. A justice is not a politician. Again, in theory. Lately our supreme court has been behaving very much like bought-and-paid-for politicians, and that should be concerning to all Americans.
I had not realized that @news was specifically for European news?
There is a whole world out there. Right now @new is around 50% US. How is it a good thing? Look at this from a non US perspective. You open your news feed and nearly half of it is about US politicians doing the political dance.
If you have political news to post, please post them at least in a political magazine, not in news.
Lately our supreme court has been behaving very much like bought-and-paid-for politicians, and that should be concerning to all Americans.
This is not news, everyone around the planet know that your politicians are sold to the richest people. Again, keep it into political magazines, or we will be flooded.
Do you really want US politics to flood each sub like what happened on reddit?
TIL the US isn't part of the world.
