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Oh every country has it!
- So why is that what makes China so bad? Like most things China is accused doing of the US has done worse.
  
  It's about the levels of freedoms.
  
  Oh, like the freedom the US provides for me to die homeless in a ditch because I can't afford my cancer treatments? Rah rah USA!
  
  yes, the US is also shit, well done
  
  You said:
  It’s about the levels of freedoms.
  I explain via personal example why the level of freedom is better in China and your response is "yes, the US is also shit." Well done indeed.
  Can you follow conversations irl, or are you just like this right now because it's hard for you to have your prejudices shown to be full of shit?
  
  what, were you expecting me to defend the US?
  
  Well, let's just say it wouldn't have surprised me. But I wasn't expecting you to just readily concede that the US's "level of freedom" is no better than that of China. Especially right after you just used that as a reason why China was "bad," specifically when compared to the US. But if you really are able to see that now, congrats, for real.
  
  That's why I said levels of freedom.
  Is the US freer? Yes, unmistakably, you can criticise officials and you have more expression. But are you safe, will you be cared for? No. Is it as free as most wealthy nations? No, not quite.
  
  Ok, well that is something. I think that's good that you recognize the freedom for the average working class person in China to live as healthy of a life as possible without concern for how much money they have or without concern for becoming homeless (like people constantly do in the US). But that you think that is less free than the US, which is "unmistakably freer" because in China there's a possibility you could get reprimanded for criticizing the state... well I think that speaks to some really fucked up priorities. But ok.
  
  Except the State can take anything and everything away from you whenever they want, which happens in China, quite regularly if you're an activist. In the US, they can also do this, true, but at the risk of causing mass civil disobedience, rioting, and protesting.
  Fact remains is that these are both deeply flawed countries where it's wealth over health. In your opinion, what's a good country we should all strive to be like?
  
  You already did with your 'levels of freedom' remark, we're expecting you to explain your defense now.
  
  may i do it later? i'm a tired goat, I gotta sleep dude!
  
  Levels of freedom by what metric? Prisoner population? Oh wait, let me guess, skin pigmentation?
  
  Mentioned this already. Scroll down pal
- Good thing you're immune to it!

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