Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?
Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?
If so, was it polled somewhere?
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They are pro Russia.
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Hexbear is very categorically not pro Russia, we're just not pro West
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I can't hear you, the Arms Deliverys to Ukraine are to loud!
Fuck you people. You are pro China and Russia.
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We are pro China, we are not pro Russia
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Same thing.
Taiwan is a Country
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Not according to the US or EUs member nations or Taiwan
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Not really. Not even amerikkka agrees
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Reposted from further upthread.
- wikileaks published a private diplomatic cable stating that no one was killed in the square itself, although a smaller number of people did die in clashes elsewhere in Beijing, consistent with China's own official account. (Here's a Telegraph article on the cables).
- a spanish film crew was in the square all night and filmed people peacefully leaving the square in the early morning, singing the Internationale, here's footage of a Hong Kong news report that includes the spanish film crew footage, which never appears in western reporting).
- one of the main organizers of the protest, Hou Dejian, states that no one died in the square and calls out other organizers for lying I Interview where Hou Dejian, a Taiwanese national and one of the leaders of the Tiananmen protests, says he was in the square all night and saw no one killed here is a twitter thread covering testimony by various organizers, including Hou Dejian).
- Numerous western media sources have stated that no massacre occurred in the square. (This article links to multiple western sources, including James Miles, attesting that no one died in the square.).
- various western massacre reports cite wildly different death figures, usually with little or no justification for the number.
- An attempt to collect all the names of the massacre victims ended early when they only found 155.
- CIA and NED goons were known to be present in Beijing and involved in the protests. (Here is an article from the Vancouver Sun in 1992, showing western intelligence involvement was known in the west decades ago).
- during most of the protest, protesters were calling for a return to stricter communism, not for liberal market reforms. These were Marxists. Their signs showed Marxist figures and slogans. (This article shows some images of the protesters displaying Marxist slogans and iconography and discusses it a bit — careful linking this site though, some of the articles are pretty dumb).
- tank man: the tanks in the video are leaving the square (you can see this in the uncropped footage) and it is broad daylight, whereas the main violence occurred at night.
- The REAL tank man video.
- the first violence was against troops, not civilians. On June 2, 1989, two days before the June 4 incident when the main violence occurred, multiple unarmed Chinese troops were burned alive and their corpses hung from nooses in public. ((CW: gore) here is a thread of photos showing dead and wounded troops, some being rescued by civilians. Multiple men were burned to death, others were beaten. Some protesters stole guns from the army and can be seen brandishing them.).
- the violence against troops was uncharacteristic of the previous tone of interactions between troops and protesters in the preceding weeks. Troops and protesters had peacefully coexisted, singing songs and sharing food together. (Here's an article that goes into it a bit)
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Why don’t you link a video of this incident instead of just a still image?
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I'm confused. There doesn't seem to be anything happening in this image?
/s
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I am incredibly owned rn
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Lmao your instance literally blocks it. Just shows how your instance can go fuck themselves.
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Our instance doesn't show any externally hosted images, it's not about what's in the image idiot
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Its completely irrelevant whats inside the image, the point is you don't get shown it because your instance likes censorship.
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The reason we don't show externally hosted images isn't because of censorship it was because of the CSAM thing that happened a bit ago that lemm.ee had a problem with
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classic centrist move, idk why people question their alignment so much
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It's the 1989 Tiemaman square Tank Man picture and Xi Jinping as Whinnie the Pooh, images commonly censored in China as one of them demonstrates clear oppression and the other discredits the CCP.
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Oppression is when you stand in the way of a tank and the tank stops for you, and then you climb on top of the tank and have a conversation with the guy in the tank, and then you walk off completely unharmed
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There's a lot more where that came from
http://www.cnd.org/June4th/massacre.html
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/tiananmen-square-massacre
Also you can find plenty on reddit by just searching "Tiananmen square"
Reporters were kept away by force and the CCP tried as hard as they could to hide all evidence. Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses, and many were whisked away to secret graves. Despite this, there is still significant photographic evidence
(This was copy pasted from Reddit)
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Lmao you're literally using Reddit as a source!
Not a single journalist who was on the square that day saw anything akin to the accusations happening. The only corpses in the square were those of lynched police officers and army members.
The tianamen square incident - as it is thought of in china - is in fact not supressed, but taught of.
The video of Tank Man is a video of a military unit showing incredible restraint - something you cannot find the equivalent for in "good" countries like the United States, where protesters are run over by cops daily.-
Here's the BBC on that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrYGiwhOuBo
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Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses
Hey, did those protestors have bones? Were they wearing clothes? Do you have the first clue about how the human body and/or physics work?
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There were actually numerous western reporters in the square and they all say nobody died there, some of them sent off diplomatic cables the same or the next day saying so, which were released by Wikileaks.
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Oh, so @CookieJarObserver is using the racist Whinnie the Pooh insult.
As always. Scratch a liberal and a fascist/racist bleeds.
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You realize that this picture originated from Chinese social media right?
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Things can undergo a transformation, just because the original usage might have been innocent. If something starts being used by white racists or western imperialists in a racist way, would ya look at that, it’s racist.
Also, it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability. Like you are doing now.
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You may be in different circles than me. In my circles, it is used to poke fun at Xi Jinping, not the Chinese people. It is a caricature, just as we draw caricature of our own politicians. Despite the CCP's attempts, Westerners distinguish between race and state. Xi Jinping is not China and China is not Xi Jinping.
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And you realise that watermelons originated in Africa, right?
You realise that the origin of something doesn't determine the depictions of it supporting racist stereotypes, such as a vast array of disgustingly racist caricatures of black people eating watermelons isn't absolved by the fact that watermelons originated in Africa, right?
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Have you ever seen the complete tank man video? he doesn't get run over, while in the authoritarian US state vehicles are often running into peaceful protestors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4
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Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.
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How dare those tanks not run over that man! Don't they understand that freedom is when you just plow into people like US security forces do.
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I'm fairly new to Lemmy. What does that signify? something to do with federation I guess? I can see the picture - Xi as Pooh Bear..
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Recently someone started trying to bring large Lemmy instances down by posting CSAM on large instances with open sign ups, as a result the hexbear mods made it so that images from untrusted instances wouldn't be shown to hexbear users to avoid hexbear users having to see stuff like that and to reduce the mods workload, idk whether its a temporary measure or not but for now all images from untrusted instances are just replaced with the words removed externally hosted image* on our end
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Thank you, that makes sense.
I had to see and report some offensive material on that line, and while it was quickly removed by our admins I don't think there's any way to actually prevent it.
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Apparently there's been some discussion on lemm.ee of getting an AI that will automatically detect CSAM and delete it automatically but idk whether anything will come of it
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So in other words our chinese censorship is censoring american freedom?
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you're literally pro-nazi and you're complaining about us lmao
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Lmao go further supporting genocides.
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Which genocides are we supporting? Point me to specific posts please.
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They cant
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It's amazing how asking for any reference immediately disbands the libs
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They only have state propaganda as their source. Driven insane by Hillary losing because of the Russians and their election interference.
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no more half measures walter
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So you support the genocide in Donbas?
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When being "not pro west" means not analyzing the conflict but simply adopting the same point of view as Russian propaganda just because Ukraine is supported by the west then yeah, you're pro Russia.
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What are you talking about? We have a huge incredibly active news mega that does analysis daily. The fact that we are as sceptical of western media as we are of russian is a good thing. You shouldn't just uncritically swallow state department propaganda. You should investigate claims made, instead of just accepting them.
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What is the Russian propaganda that we’re repeating in regard to Ukraine?
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Why can't you see the difference? We see the west and Nato as having propagated and profited off of this conflict. Russia is guilty as well as Ukraine in fanning the flames of war. But peace is a far better alternative to war and far better than flooding the area with weapons. Weapons that will continue to do damage long after hostility ends. Pro Russia How?
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When being "not pro west" means not analyzing the conflict
Just like you analyzed our news megathreads from the last year to make this assessment?
It just fucking baffles me how people from other instances feel so comfortable talking shit straight from their ass. I just don't understand the mentality. It's fucking slimy. You can just do that shit and you don't feel dirty?
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Go into the news mega and post your "analysis" we would love to see it
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No thanks, I'm not into brigading :)
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Are you this afraid of learning something? Coward
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Nah, I just don't like being subjected to Chinese propaganda or any other propaganda as a matter of fact...
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Lmao propaganda is when you source your claims so others can check for themselves. It's pretty clear you're just very insecure of your knowledge. At some level you know you're wrong, so you're afraid of being challenged on it.
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If all your sources are propaganda then what does that make your claims? 🤔
Want me to find sources that COVID doesn't exist, that the earth is flat, that the moon landing never happened?
You know just because you have a source behind what you say it doesn't make it right, that's the stuff you learn by staying in school.
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Why do you think it is impossible to just dislike two things at once?
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