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  • example sabi ko nga sa mga psychiatric problems https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2338266

    • pain? big no, meditation and even a placebo can lessen or erase the pain.
    • psychiatric? could be but only for adults 25 and beyond, for me kids, teens, adolescence and early adults should be illegal to consume even as a medicinal but if the patient wants it, it should be strictly monitored and only do so when other options are wearied out already, remember Seroxat by GSK has made it to public fooling both FDA and Psychiatrist and Psychologist it is publicly believed to be okay to prescribed to adolescence and only stopped when Spitzer slams them

    edibles are not safe either THC traces have some negative connotations surrounding it too and it's also the reason getting high is a thing


    or sa negative impacts https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4827335/

    I agree with all but it cites DSM which is criticized for making homosexuality a mental disease before, and experimenting with grief exception.


    isa pa sa nadidismiss sa paglegalized is yung pwede na mag research legally once it is approved.

    well marijuana research is already happening, and it's result is the reason why it's still illegal.


    at lalo ng malaking effect kaya ako pabor sa legalization ng recreational use ay magiging safer alternative as compare to the likes of opium (shabu).

    yung mga crime na patayan is ma lessen kasi why will you go for shabu kung may “legal” naman na marijuana. tapos regulated pa, it’s not 100% full proof. but definitely I believe na ma lessen yung crime related sa drugs.

    I agree a bit since there's some truth to it but I won't encourage someone to try marijuana if they're not in some other extreme drugs, I'll only advise it to those who have addiction on much extreme drugs

    EDIT: Seroxat(aka Paxil, Paroxetine) pala not Xeroxat

    • well in pain meditation/placebo is kinda borderline pseudo science, it's a mind over matter thing eh, it may effect or not, but if we take the route of protein interaction, madaling makita yung direct science sa effect nung substance sa dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, oxytocin and the likes.

      sa recreational, it's tricky since it's prone to abuse, we don't know how to properly regulate it, so we are not ready for that, but when and if that time comes na okay na, I want to try it for once, para naman makaescape sa reality.

      • meditation is proven to increase pain tolerance, in placebo there's this American Anesthetist named Henry Beecher, during WWII they ran out of opiate-based painkillers so before the placebo he thought of trying inducing heart failure on utterly wounded soldiers but before doing so he tried gaslighting the soldiers they are taking morphine but what he gives is just a saltwater drip, well the result is the same as taking morphine.

      • I don't know about the protein interaction you're talking about, but if you're talking about hormones able to bind to any cell in your body and have its effects, then I already knew that, learnt it from Huberman, meditation increases serotonin level which is the body's natural pain killer so it's not unscientific.

          • To be honest, I admit I can't understand it, now if you understood it explain in layman's terms, now if you expound this again,

            madaling makita yung direct science sa effect nung substance sa dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, oxytocin and the likes.

            you're trying to confuse me since dopamine lang ang nandoon sa source mo sa link, and dopamine is a pleasure hormone so it could be more about pleasure and less or not about pain

            • im talking about in generality kaya i said taking "substance" as compare to meditation, the substance hack your receptor then your body produces hormones, in a way its like mind or bofy over matter din, kasi katawan mo pa rin mag produce ng hormones, but as i said di lahat, may mindset na ganun, so you need to take substance kaya ininclude ko na yung iban hormones and the "likes" when talking about substance that is taken.

              okay if your talking about phys, pain your right, but when its about mental pain you need some happy hormones.

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