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Do you still watch YouTube? Who do you follow?

It seems that everything turned into scams, aggressive self marketing and just click bait irrelevant content. I liked finance videos, but every creator sounds like "the world will end soon" or "my secret method to make 1 million per week day trading stocks/forex/crypto."

Content aimed at culture (movies/series) also behave the same way, throwing a bit of politics into the mix. Always the same incendiary click bait title spewing a bunch of nonsense that has nothing the story, setting characters or other topics relevant to the piece.

Is there anything that can be saved on that platform? It has gotten so bad that I'm start to think that Tiktok and Twitter both have better content than YouTube. At least in those platforms you can find a random dude writing an essay in a series of 20 tweets on why an increase of mantis is related to the global surge of ballpoint pen prices.

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  • I know this will get hate, but I still enjoy LTT.

    • Who throws shade at LTT? They're quite entertaining.

      • A lot of people complain about the clickbait headlines or that he's hamming it up for the camera. He does get a lot of hate.

        I personally find him entertaining and I like most of the other presenters. I don't mind the clickbait headlines because they're all clickbait, it's like a running joke itself.

      • I don't go out of my way to throw shade at LTT, but I unsubscribed a few months ago, and there are multiple reasons.

        There were a few topics over the last few months that just were either poorly researched or I assume misrepresented purposely to appease the YouTube overlords. These topics were on Android TV boxes and also blocking advertisements. I mean, I get it, don't bite the hand that feeds you, but I really hate they have such a large audience and then misrepresented things. Just don't cover it. Their coverage of anything Linux when it involves Linus himself is also, absolutely atrocious. That entire Linux gaming PC challenge was so badly done. I think Jake and Emily were the only two people who I respected on the channel when it came to a tech opinion. Then there is the, "don't discuss pay," policy.

        I realized that I never learn anything from it, and if anything I disagree with it quite often. And it also lost the entertainment value for me, when is the last time they have done something fun like one of those build-offs? Seemed like most of the videos before I unsubscribed was just Linus adding stuff to his house. Anyway, I haven't missed it since unsubscribing.

        • What'd they get wrong on the Android TV boxes?

          • They made it sound like all generic Android TV boxes were infected with malware, and also made it sound like it was nearly impossible to change firmware on them. Their "investigation" was as in-depth as, Corejava folder, malware, ALL ANDROID BOXES PROBABLY HAVE MALWARE, STAY AWAY!!!! Which is just a complete load of shit.

            They could have done more research and listed models that did not contain malware, or list which boxes had alternative firmware to flash that make them better. Or that if you have one of these boxes that contains malware then there are ways to remove the malware from them. Because these generic Android boxes do have pretty decent value, and many can be flashed with decent firmware. But instead the message that they wanted to impress on their large audience was to avoid all these generic Android boxes regardless of any merit to their claims, oh, and buy a Google Chromecast! Yeah... great recommendation... don't buy these generic devices that spy on you, buy the one from the company that pays our bills!

        • I thought the Linux gaming pc challenge was fair. You have to remember that most users are not technical at all and that's where Linux falls down.

          The only thing I disagreed with him majorly on was his complaint about the GitHub interface not downloading files you click on by default. I get where he's coming from as a non-dev, it's jarring and confusing but as a developer that's the last thing you'd want. His complaint about GitHub's interface really should have been directed at all those people using GitHub as a place to store files. But that's so intrinsic to Linux, it's hard to get away from yet it's something that does prevent Linux from appealing to the mainstream.

          Don't get me started on the reliance upon the terminal and bash scripts to achieve anything. I cringe every time someone says "just go here and copy/paste these commands", not just because it's unintuitive but because it's also a major security risk. Not that windows is innocent of this either but it's much more common in Linux.

          • You have to remember that most users are not technical at all and that’s where Linux falls down.

            That's wrong. My 80+ year old grandma and my tech illiterate wife both use Linux, you do not need to be technical to use Linux. Linux is great for average users and Linux is great for advanced users. The problem is when Windows power users use Linux and realize that they are not computer experts, they are just Windows power users, and become salty about it. Then they say Linux is the problem when the problem is actually between the chair and keyboard, and when they continually try to do things the Windows way without understanding any reasoning behind their actions.

            I haven't watched the video for a long time, but I remember thinking he's wrong or being dumb and completely unfair like every two minutes in it. So much so that I wanted to completely break that video down, but I just don't care any longer. I unsubscribed, LTT content just isn't good in my opinion. If people find it entertaining, great, but it's not for me. It's inaccurate, poorly researched fluff for the pcmasterrace types... WIndows users and gamers.

            • I'm going to bet your 80 year old gran isn't playing AAA games and streaming on her Linux PC.

              • No she's not, but neither are all the other average users. The average user does almost everything in a browser these days. I worked for an ISP as an installer for 8 years... I've been in ~10, 000 homes. Maybe 1 in 30 people use their computer for serious gaming. Most gamers are console gamers.

                But with that said, gaming on Linux has come a long way in the last couple years. Most games that don't work are the ones with anti-cheat that install what is essentially a rootkit on your computer. Streaming has never been a problem with OBS.

                • I think you're missing the point I'm getting at. The Linux challenge was specifically a gaming challenge, or at least gaming was a significant part of the challenge and while yes, gaming has indeed come a long way in recent years (and the stream deck is helping drive that further), it still has as long way to go.

                  You need to separate the "what's doable" fun "what works out of the box", it's the latter that can fall down for most people and the second you have to open as terminal, you've lost the audience that we're talking about.

                  • I didn't get into to the specifics of what was wrong with that video, but there was a lot wrong with it and some of it was framing. When a video annoys me every couple minutes because it's inaccurate then I'm obviously going to be put off by it. And that was the case for that video.

      • AgedLikeMilk

        • Spoken like an average cancel culture enjoyer; especially since this post hasn't had any activity in like, what, a week? Digging up an old comment to do something like this is something people enjoy for some reason, and I don't get it. Look for the positives, not the negatives, for God's sake. There's too much negativity in this world (which probably won't change, but I can hope).

          • Cancel culture? Really? I suppose everything is woke to you too, huh? People that cry about cancel culture are people that don't want to take responsibility for their words and actions. In other words, douchebags. Guess what, there are consequences to the things you do and say! You don't just get to say and do whatever you want and then cry about cancel culture when people rightfully end up despising you. Your comment agedlikemilk, don't be such an insecure little removed about it.

            And many of the issues that I brought up for unsubscribing a month ago, like the conclusion jumping and poor research were the bulk of the GN video. He just saw the benchmark errors whereas I saw the Linux/Android/adblocking misinformation.

            And you're right, it's only been a few days. But boy oh boy, has it gotten worse over the last little bit as more and more piles on with harassment investigations and learning about the awful rabid LTT fanbase that drove a young boy and his mother to suicide. I wonder what else we'll end up learning?

            But go ahead, keep on simping for your boy Linus, and crying about cancel culture.

            • Crying? You're the one getting worked up about it. I just like to spread positivity, and it's clear that you don't. Not my problem.

              • Yeah, anyone that mentions cancel culture is a whiny little removed in my opinion. And I'm not worked up at all, I feel vindicated in my conclusions if anything. You should reflect on why you got so insecure over an agedlikemilk comment... because you can state that you only like to spread positivity, but that's not what I'm seeing from you.

                • Okay, sorry if I misunderstood your tone, but I didn't get insecure lol. I was just trying to defend the good sides of LTT, despite the drama. Nothing wrong with looking for the positives in a negative situation. And, I still feel that my assumption that you support cancel culture was justified, but disagree with me as you will. Anyways, just a suggestion, but try looking for the positives hidden in the negatives, because I can almost assure you that Linus and his team are trying their best to make things right within the community, and the company. Take that as you will.

                  • And, I still feel that my assumption that you support cancel culture was justified

                    Explain to me why if I adamantly oppose someone's ideology or positions or products that I would continue to subject myself to them? It's my right to exclude any person or company or product from my life, and it's my right to inform others of my reasoning. Cancel culture doesn't actually exist... it's what people that don't want to be held accountable use to deflect a given situation. If you say something stupid, and a single person, or even if a group of like-minded people unfollow you... that's not cancel culture, that's the rightful consequence of your actions. No one needs to listen to, nor put up with stupid takes. And you can see what my disposition was before this all came out. I didn't really care this much, I just unsubscribed because I saw how horribly researched and inaccurate his videos and takes were, and that was it. But at this point, seeing who Linus really is, how he has responded to this by deflecting and shirking responsibility. How fucking hypocritical he has been. How he's tried to play the victim. And all the other things have come out from it now that people can speak up without worrying about all the rabid fans destroying them. I have nothing but contempt and disdain for him as a person, because he has showed his true colors throughout all of this. I don't want to support anything he does. You might call that cancel culture... I call that having principles and integrity. Because unlike Linus, I live by the words I preach to others.

                    but try looking for the positives hidden in the negatives, because I can almost assure you that Linus and his team are trying their best to make things right within the community, and the company. Take that as you will.

                    They are only doing "the right thing" because this is effecting their revenue streams. By Linus's own words, they were not going to do anything... until they started losing subscribers and people started canceling their floatplane memberships. It's fine to have a generally positive outlook in life, but don't let it cloud reality. You may prefer to be blissfully ignorant, but I prefer to understand the truth, even if it does cause pain sometimes.

                    I don't think we are going to see eye to eye on this, so I probably won't continue responding. But I appreciate you coming back with civil discourse nonetheless. Have a nice day.

    • What? LTT is great!

    • I really enjoy the WAN Show but the LTT channel is hit or miss for me, most videos are way too long for the content that they actually provide. It makes sense considering the amount of videos they make, but it’s frustrating

    • To each their own, but Linus is tech cancer.

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