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1y ago

"...is not supported in this browser", fuck you Discord

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People use discord in the browser? Damn boi
- Never use an app for what should be a web site.
  
  It works better for me as an app. I don't like my browsers to be cluttered like that. But if it fits your usecase
  
  That's why I like Chrome's (and various Chromium browsers') ability to app-ify sites. Will create a .app in MacOS, .desktop in Linux, etc. Launches as what looks like an independent app with its own dock/launcher icon. Utilizes most of their PWA stuff.
  Sadly, it looks like Chrome has hidden the option completely in the latest version unless you set a flag that will probably go away in a few releases. Edge makes it pretty clear.
  I wish Firefox would bring the feature back. They deprecated it years ago and I use it heavily (only reason/time I use Chromium stuff on most of my machines)
  
  I know it from Android and I was using it quite frequently as well. But in my opinion it's better as a website alternative, compared to being a complete replacement for apps. Things are less buggy and more smooth for me that way.
  
  I fail to understand how opening a web site, which is all a browser does, can be defined as 'cluttered', but my use case is security while appears yours is to let corpos rummage through your files.
  
  It's inconvenient and disorganized to have it as an extra tab (taking up tab space) or browser window (same symbols), also it runs smoother for me within the app.
  but my use case is security while appears yours is to let corpos rummage through your files
  I care about UX & seems like I'm not the only one at that. If I would care about privacy and security I wouldn't use discord, but matrix or sth.
  
  As long as you don't care about security, no problems.
  
  It works better only because they intentionally hamstring the browser so you'll do exactly that.
  
  Not a big fan of conspiracy theories mate
  
  Me either bloke
- At least you can block some of the telemetry with uBlock or similar
  
  Fair, but from a UX and technical perspective it's a pain in the ass to use it like that
  
  At my old workplace I used it in the browser daily. Wasn’t really an issue at all.
  
  Why would you want to block their telemetry?
  It is not like they're using it to serve ads to you, and it should be better for everyone for developers to make decisions based on how users are actually using their app, no?
  
  It's simple. Nothing that happens on my device is their data.
  Any telemetry that isn't explicitly opt in with zero consequence for not doing so should be the kind of illegal that gets every asset your company owns seized immediately for non-compliance. All user data collection is spyware.
  
  Invasions of privacy are bad per se, even if you don't use them to serve ads
  
  "even if you don’t use them to serve ads", Which they do, just indirectly.
  
  You kidding? That's literally a troijan horse.
  Imagine you buy a new showerhead and it came with a hidden camera sending data to the seller. The camera is enabled by default, with toggle hidden and difficult to find.
  This is what it is when you enable telemetry by default.
  
  The desktop client logs and sends lists of currently running processes by default, and they also collect usage data (which channels you open, how long for, who you’re interacting with). In the settings, there’s literally an option for “Use data to customize my Discord experience”. And sure, they don’t show ads, but their third-party integrations do. Article with sources
  In the end, processing and storing millions of texts, images, videos and files permanently, and hosting all those live voice and video calls, and making updates to the clients, will always cost more than what they get from Nitro and server boosting. Discord isn’t profitable; they have to make the deficit up to shareholders somehow.
  
  The problem is one of trust; there is none.
- Yes as I manly use it on phone
  So for the once on a blue moon when I'll open discord on my PC, the browser is enough
  
  Makes sense
- It actually always worked better for me in my browser
  
  That’s my experience on my machine running Ubuntu. The reason was that Discord ran in their snap sandbox, while my browser is not sandboxed. This leads to the sandboxes app not working together with xdg-desktop-portal, which means that screen sharing doesn’t work.
  
  Dafuck haha. What computer do you have?
  
  It's not a laptop. Not sure why that would matter though. The browser version works fine. If it didn't, that wouldn't be my pc's fault, it would be discord's.
  
  I obviously meant any computer besides phones/tablets. Never heard of anyone that had less problems on the website, that's just why I was wondering..
  
  Well, it's a home built machine. Like all computers it has random weird issues. Just was trying to say that sometimes the unexpected thing will work better. Because had I not experienced that with discord, I would've assumed the desktop app should be better.
  
  Fair
- Discord is a web app, there's no other way. You either use your main browser or the one they're bundling it with.
  
  If it's just a WebApp, then why does one of the commenters have issues to run it without the browser?
  See: https://feddit.de/comment/2192027
  Edit: And I know that you're right technically, still there is a difference in how you run it when using a browser vs Webapp.
  
  Theoretically, it may have additional features when it's bundled with Electron, but ultimately there's nothing wrong with running it in the browser.
  
  Nah I know there's nothing wrong with it. I was just surprised so many people do it. But I guess we have a privacy-aware tech bubble here

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