Ron DeSantis Proposes Unprovoked War on Mexico

prospect.org Ron DeSantis Proposes Unprovoked War on Mexico

He’s the latest of many Republican imperialists to endorse another war of aggression.

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At this point you really need to define what a “war” is
"a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state"
Key word, "between." You can't have a war if no one declares war.
- You can't have a war if no one declares war
  Are you just fucking with us now? Is this a bit?
  I've seen at least one other person gently remind you of the last 70 years of US history. Are you just being a troll at this point?
  I worded my question explicitly so as to make you think about this. Can you please try to?
- Two states fighting against each other for the other state’s territory or resources is not a war unless they declare war?
  
  Mexico wouldn't be fighting back in this case (which is obviously bad, I'm just speaking semantically).
  
  Right, but we’re just talking in the abstract. You have a definition of war, I’m asking if there is a conventional war, one state opposing another site, trying to gain the other’s resources or territory - you don’t consider this a war unless both countries explicitly declare war on the other?
  
  you don’t consider this a war unless both countries explicitly declare war on the other?
  An invasion sure, but not technically a war.
  
  Ok, then I guess I have no response. I disagree, but I doubt either of us is going to convince the other. I will just say, if something is functionally a war I believe it should be considered a war, regardless of if the parties to the conflict are calling it that.
  
  I’m curious if you extend that to the Russia-Ukraine conflict too…

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