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No states give men the right to not be a father. They're along for whatever ride the woman chooses
- Men have the right to use birth control or get a vasectomy
  
  Which don't protect them in cases of rape or reproductive coercion. Vasectomies are a form of permanent sterilization with dubious reversal rates.
  That's also ignoring how there are fewer options for birth control, in no small part due to biological differences (read: hormones).
  
  The poster simply doesn't care about men, dude.
  
  Sure, but, that's not why I bothered. It's a small effort to hopefully get other folks to think about these problems holistically.
  
  Fair enough.
  
  How is this not also an argument against abortion
  
  It is
- Right to abortion is body autonomy, not right to escape parenthood. Fetal death outside the womb is a byproduct.
  Natural law, in its majestic equality, frees the sexes alike from the duty to carry unwanted occupants in their bodies. Men have equal rights to eject unwanted occupants from their bodies whenever that happens. Only by accident of nature are biological women regularly cursed with the burden to carry child.
  As frivolous as that may naively seem, it's a serious argument: don't blame natural rights for natural differences.
  Repression of right to abortion should concern non-women, too: if they ever find their bodies hooked up to sustain someone's life and want to discontinue that, the courts might deny them.
- Men have the exact same right to abandon and refuse to raise their child that women do. This right is not always respected in American courts, but the same laws that protect her if he doesn't want to help also should protect him if she just wants to drop the baby and run.
  And if she sabotaged the condom, stole his sperm for IVF,.or similarly took action to concieve against his wishes, then she committed a crime and should be punished. But not the child.
  As far as the law or justice cares, babies could be delivered by storks.

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