framework doesn't rule
framework doesn't rule
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/32868516
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Is there more details?
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i’ve linked to more context in the original post
but the TL;DR is:
- framework has started to financially support open-source project
- among those projects are hyprland and omarchy, both having ties to the far-right (hyprland’s community is a toxic nazi bar and omarchy is maintained by a loud and proud racist)
- people were understandably upset at framework for this
- framework’s response was "nooo you guys, we are apolitical! we are trying to make a big tent! and that includes fascists too, stop being meanies!"
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I read the links provided in the other thread. This seems to be a bit of an overreaction.
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Overreaction is the only tool that works to stop enshittification before it starts.
Lean on Framework. Insist they vet projects before giving them money. There's nothing here that can't be undone.
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There's nothing here that can't be undone.
I firmly disagree. Anyone who doesn't actually know what framework is, will see them via a google search on the laptop in passing interest. Anyone who comes across a post like this when researching isn't going to continue further to see if they got better, just like people who make these posts aren't going to go back and change their comments saying otherwise.
Additionally, It's optimistic to say that they should vet projects before giving them money but, chances are this is going to just dissuade them from giving money to projects in the future.
But this is also assuming this actually takes off, Lemmy has been the only area I've even seen the complaints about framework
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Let me sum up the reasons.
DHH wrote a blog post on his experience with immigration in the UK. Some people think that makes him a Nazi. He also runs the omarchy distribution.
There was a transphobic post on hyprland‘s Discord, which was unmoderated at the time.
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It's not one comment from hyperland, it's an harasement campain that led them to be baned from freedesktop.org and rightfully so.
And the blog post you liked is a rant that there not enough white people in london while supporting the tommy robinson march ( a nazi event ).
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Funny how there's already people downplaying how bad it actually is.
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I did not like that blog post.
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You sure seem to be defending it a lot though.
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I linked it to give people the opportunity to read and form their own opinion. Posting a link is now defending?
DHH has been a controversial person for decades. I understand when people don’t want to be connected to him.
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You started off calling it all overblown, without even looking at all the other right wing blog posts he's made.
Thats putting a pretty hefty slant to start things off, yeah.
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Why am I not surprised you think that one post is the only issue.
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Well, it was the only one that I know of. If you know others, then please share.
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Sure, here's a quote of a comment I made on the other post:
They said a hint of the kind of person, you took that to nazi. There is a lot more up on DHH's blog... including complaining about being called a nazi, btw.
Because, you know.... he's a nazi. Even that "wahhhh" post is just full of nazi talking points.
Edit: Just to be clear, this is not the only example.
https://world.hey.com/dhh/it-s-beginning-to-feel-like-the-80s-in-america-again-68c2708e
https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-parental-dead-end-of-consent-morality-e4e8a8ee
I really don't understand how anyone can say he isn't what he is - a nazi.
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Thank you for sharing these.
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Overreaction is the only tool that works to stop enshittification before it starts.
Overreacting can undermine your cause. I don't see how reacting accordingly cannot "stop enshittification before it starts".
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Well, out of all projects they funded, they just so happen to mention the nazi one significantly more than the others on Twitter. They like mentioning it a lot.
And it's not an important package or some foundational project.
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I agree that these are fringe projects and framework should spend their money on more important ones.
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Why is it an overreaction? They mention these weird arch dotfiles so much, people just wanted an answer.
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