Ladybird Browser Gains Cloudflare Support to Challenge the Status Quo
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Hot Top New Old Controversial ☂️- @lemmy.ml 5d ago ladybird browser coming up with status quo integration so they challenge status quo.
it's like these browser devs have no idea what people actually want in a browser.
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boonhet @sopuli.xyz 5d ago There's nothing about integrating anything (I assume you mean Cloudflare turnstile?). It's Cloudflare giving money to projects they like. Apparently Ladybird also has a 100k per donor limit, so that's the max Cloudflare can give (annually?)
☂️- @lemmy.ml 5d ago that's like taking money from google just so they aren't considered monopolies in the browser segment.
doesn't "challenge" no status quo.
Alaknár @sopuli.xyz 4d ago Remind me, which browser is Cloudlfare making?
☂️- @lemmy.ml 4d ago did i ever make that claim or imply it anywhere?
Alaknár @sopuli.xyz 4d ago You compared the Cloudflare situation to "taking money from Google" and added that due to Ladybird taking money from Cloudflare, they're "not challenging the status quo".
Ladybird being a browser has absolutely no bearing on webhosting and the only status quo it can challenge is in the browser market. Which implies that you think Cloudflare has something to do with the browser market.
☂️- @lemmy.ml 4d ago i compared it to firefox, saying sucking up to oligarchies for money gets you tied up with them and prevents you from challenging them.
no use in challenging "the browser market" when you are getting funded by the very same actors keeping it the way it is.
Alaknár @sopuli.xyz 4d ago Again: what does Cloudflare have to do with the browser market...?
☂️- @lemmy.ml 4d ago they monopolize the internet infratructure. they can very well be the ones enforcing mainstream browsers.
and they do. they challenge firefox users much more when they have adblockers on and such. they have the capability to do more.
Alaknár @sopuli.xyz 4d ago they have the capability to do more.
And you don't think that financing a third party browser to break the duopoly is "doing more"?
☂️- @lemmy.ml 4d ago the duopoly that reigns the internet is google and cloudflare. this changes nothing.
ZeroHora @lemmy.ml 5d ago Apolitical people are really funny.
☂️- @lemmy.ml 5d ago to be fair "apolitical" usually leans right-wing
AnUnusualRelic @lemmy.world 4d ago Like, definitely not a full screen window. Have they changed that yet?