4d ago

United States escalates trade war with Canada following Palestine stance

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Canadians are playing defensive. They really need to go on the offensive.

Get all Government departments and Crown Corporations to cancel Microsoft Office. Use LibreOffice.
Get all Government departments and Crown Corporations to cancel Microsoft Windows. Use Linux.
Ban all foreign linked consulting firms (McKinsey, Bain) from obtaining any government contract.
Announce a $100 million Canadian fund to support opensource software like Krita, Gimp, Kdenlive, Inkscape. Time to take down Adobe.
Cancel the F-35. Buy old F-16s instead. It's better to have 5 planes that fly than one expensive plane that doesn't work.

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4d ago

Trump escalates trade war with Canada following Palestine stance

www.reuters.com /world/americas/trump-escalates-trade-war-with-canada-following-palestine-stance-2025-07-31/

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4d ago

United States escalates trade war with Canada following Palestine stance

www.reuters.com /world/americas/trump-escalates-trade-war-with-canada-following-palestine-stance-2025-07-31/

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"Wow! Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make it very hard for us to make a Trade Deal with them," Trump said on Truth Social.
It has become obvious that Carney doesn't put much value in a "deal" with Trump's US anymore.
- canada actively aids the genocide in the same way that the united states and the united kingdom do; this is little more than political copycat of the french and british gov'ts so that the canadian gov't can also insist that they were always on the right side of history when the next few generations read their history books in school.
  
  One can praise a step in the right direction while acknowledging there are many steps to go.
  
  It took an ongoing genocide for a conditional state recognition. So they will probly do the next step when there is no longer any palestinian in palestine
  
  They'll pivot to "It's too late now", which is always how political delaying tactics like this one work.
  Carney learned his politics working for the Tories (who are basically posh Fascists) in Britain as head of the Bank Of England and this tactic of promising something near meaningless in the future to avoid doing now the actual things required to address the problem that the public opinion demands (such as sanctions on Israel) is very common over there.
  This shit is pure hypocrisy, which is why the British Government (who, right now, are arresting people for merelly planning to demonstrate against the Genocide) came up with the idea.
  
  Hundreds of thousands of dead children and counting in exchange for recognizing statehood, maybe, in a month's time and only if Hamas surrenders.
  That's not the moral highground you seem to think it is.
  
  So you’d prefer nothing at all happening? Cuz that’s what that this “all or nothing” mentality accomplishes
  
  That's a perfect example of a False Dichotomy - there are literally thousands of options other that merely "nothing" and "non-binding promise full of caveats of no-impact future action".
  Quite a lot of those thousands of options actually impact Israel NOW.
  Chosing to avoid any of those impactful action options and pushing instead for a "promise of future no impact action, if certain vague conditions are met" is exactly how politicians avoid being accused of "doing nothing" whilst de facto doing nothing: this a very common political strategy to avoid action until it's too late when under pressure from public opinion to act now, so it's actually worse than doing nothing at all (because it has the same practical results as doing nothing at all, whilst reducing pressure to act hence making it less likely that effective actions will ever be taken).
  You seem to have fallen for this common political scam hook, line and sinker.
  
  At what point has anyone said “oh yep that’s all I need from you Canada that’s good enough”
  nobody is claiming this is a good stopping point. Nobody is using this to halt their push for more. They’re just saying that it’s a good thing to have happened.
  
  Had this been done when there was no Holocaust by Starvation in Gaza and those politicians were not under public pressure to do something about it, then yeah, it would have been a positive action for Palestine as whole since it would open the door for eventual improvements there, but right now, by delaying effective action as wished by the public, that tiny positive potential impact in the future is more than offset by the continued deaths that mean there will be no such Future for tens of thousands or even millions in Gaza, and this "action" does nothing to address that.
  The greatest impact this has is to reduce pressure on those politicians to address the problem, so de facto this is a step backwards compared to "doing nothing" as it wields the same result to Gazans whilst by reducing the pressure on politicians makes it less likely that they're forces to take an effective action.
  The only way to confuse this with a step forward if you completelly ignore the broader context of how most of the people who might derive a tiny benefit from this will be dead or have lost far more than they will gain from said tiny benefit when that benefit delivers anything, and the political managing of public opinion component of this.
  
  Okay bud, enjoy the grandstanding all you want. 👍
  
  You're the one dying on the hill of defending that grand proclamations of how they're going to help Palestine from the very politicians currently shipping weapons to Israel should be taken unquestionably at face value, and hence that they're really taking a step forward.
  
  👍
  
  where is the step in the right direction?
  Imagine you are dying of thirst so I show up, hold a glass of cold water and yell at the world "I will give this water to @Shiggles" and then whisper to you "if you pay me a million dollars, agree to be my slave for life, let me dunk my dick in the water first and finally let me have my way with your partner"
  Would you still say I took a step in the right direction?
  
  Exactly. Demanding that Palestine give up its arms in the face of a massive nuclear power that has already turned Gaza to rubble. Is an absurd demand.

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