2d ago

What is piefed?

Is just the same as lemmy? What makes it different? Is it similar to kbin? Why is it meant to be better according so some people?

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https://join.piefed.social/features/
Differences between Lemmy and PieFed
Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics.
Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/pics@lemmy.world
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
Keyboard shortcuts.
Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
Better UI design (somewhat subjective!)
Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective)
Voting is private.
See also features for healthy communities.
Each community has it’s own wiki. Demo
- Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
  Is this self-designated?
  
  I have no idea! I'm already hosting Lemmy so I don't really see the point personally.
  Just thought I'd look it up for OP.
  
  No, admins designate it.
  Most instances do not use this feature, afaik. piefed.social does but most of the others do not.
  
  In the code there is a function that recognizes if the name of the community contains "meme" and if so does not add the upvote to the vote counter of the user
  
  I seriously doubt it because I'm pretty sure the point is to remove the ability for bot accounts and spammers/etc from farming up some karma to appear more legit for their nefarious/spamming purposes.
  
  I think either way could possibly be exploited.
  And putting all that aside, I think all image-centric subs should probably be included. It’s just as easy to farm karma with cute cats and flowers as it is with memes.
  
  Excluding OC communities, right? Like you're not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they're not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts
  
  This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions.
  Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment.
  So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy.
  tl;dr: ¯(ツ)_/¯
  
  I appreciate this!
  Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences
  Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC
- Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default. Voting is private.
  I don't particularly care for these two items. I used to think user-curation was a good thing, but comparing Lemmy to Reddit, I have to say I no longer feel that way. Voting matters less on Lemmy and I think it's better for it, all things considered.
- Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
  I'm very interested in this. I'm kinda stunned that lemmy doesn't do this natively.
  
  The Voyager client can do that. I use it a lot!
  
  I use connect which also does that. IMO, it should be native.
  
  I can tell you it's life changing
- How exactly does the private vote thing work? I thought votes being federated was inherent to the way the fediverse is designed.
  
  I believe piefed creates fake accounts to do the voting so it doesn't federate the actual account that cast the vote.
- People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
  Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
  I think any kind of reputation score should be community specific. There are users whose commenting style fits one community but not another, and their overall reputation should be understood in the context of which communities actually like them rather than some kind of global average.
  
  Time for another fork... sigh...
  
  We now have thirteen competing standards!
  
  Id say I say some controversial things yet I still somehow on average go positive karma wise, you have to be straight up hateful and ignorant on purpose to go negative imo
- I'm not able to see any content behind those links or even the root site of https://piefed.social/ without what looks like creating an account and logging in. Is account creation and login required to interact with piefed at all? No anonymous reading?
  
  This is a temporary measure to reduce load on the server from AI scrapers.
  
  Same here, so I'd assume so.
  
  Gotcha. That's a non-starter for me then. I hope I'm not the intended audience for piefed. I never visit Facebook pages for the same reason.
  
  I could be entirely wrong, but that's what it looks like, yeah.
  Absolutely hate registration walls as well.
  
  "I just want to see what's there"
  "Make an account first."
  "Is it worth making an account?"
  "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever"
  
  You could check out another instance, for example https://feddit.online/ , which is visible without signing in.
  Piefed.social used to be open for all, but I suspect it needed to be restricted due to AI scrapers. Not sure exactly what the reasoning is though.
  You can find a list of instances here: https://fedidb.com/software/piefed
  
  Seems to be 100% Lemmy content
  
  There's no real difference, content flows freely between the two platforms.
  I'm writing this in piefed - does it make my comment "piefed content", while your comment is "Lemmy content"?
  The distinction makes no sense. And that's the point - use whatever platform you prefer, enjoy the same content anywhere you go. There is no "piefed content" or "lemmy content", only content. :)
  
  I suppose its good that there is a fediverse alternative to Lemmy. We've seen some things to be concerned about from the authors of Lemmy. Should Lemmy go too far, there's an active alternative in place to take over.
  
  !lego@piefed.social is an example of Piefed commmunity
  
  !lego@piefed.social is an example of Piefed commmunity
  
  Also @rimu@piefed.social , is the login wall new?
  
  Yeah just until the latest scraper wave goes away.
  
  Have you considered https://anubis.techaro.lol/ ?
  
  Yes, I've been trying to make anubis work for a while. It's tricky to get right.
  Here is an early experiment - https://join.piefed.social/2025/07/09/an-anubis-config-for-piefed/
  
  Good luck! I think Lemmy.zip uses it, @Demigodrick@lemmy.zip is this the case?
  
  I really need help with anubis. I can get it to block but not in such a way that also allows API access and federation and web clients like blorpblorp.
  Anyway I only need to turn anubis on for 10 minutes and all the scrapers go away for days. They really really hate it!
  
  I don't use it currently (except on one of the front ends we use as a test) but I believe the easiest way would be to use nginx to separate the paths you want to pass traffic to, so it doesnt apply to api traffic etc, only the ui. I use traefik for piefed so I don't know how it integrates in there yet, but I know a few people have got it working for lemmy by using the nginx paths.
  There is also go-away as an alternative option.
  I have made extensive use of cloudflares challenges too
  
  If only it was that easy. Check out these examples of what Voyager does: https://vger.social/comment/8605586
  
  People on an admin channel can probably help you
- This might need updating, I think the private voting feature was removed?
  
  Indeed, I raised to Rimu to review that page
- Sounds neat
- I don't like the fact that users receive a banner next to their name if they get downvoted a lot. This makes other people judge negatively the comment even before reading it. I think it also encourages people to keep downvoting and discourages to upvote (as what happens with mass down votes of a comment on Reddit just for the sake of doing so).
  Edit: sorry for my English, it's not my native language + I just woke up

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Differences between Lemmy and PieFed