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Justified military intervention

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so it's not the same. got it.
Just to put my actual opinion out there, fuck 'em both. There's a reason israel needs "the iron dome" and israel keeps doing psycho shit like the past year, and illegal land grabs. The only difference is that palestine has no international recogition and shitty firepower, I guarantee if the roles were reversed , it would be the same, but with israel on the suffering side.
- There's your lack of imagination. "We have to commit genocide, it's self defense".
  When apartheid ended , did they just reversed apartheid and put all the whites in Bantulands? after ww2, did they put all the blond Germans in death camps?
  how about just abolish apartheid in Israel and give everyone equal rights?
  look into https://onestatecampaign.org/en/
  Maybe there's a reason Palestinians are fighting for their basic survival. while Israel are fighting to steal land. and don't give me shit about protecting jews, if they did they would have responded to oct7th immediately rather than wait 7 fucking hours (I could have driven from the furthest place in Israel and be there before the IDF) to shoot at israeli civilians running away, or bomb their own bases with soldiers still in, or shell houses when Israelis inside. Or even gunning down naked free hostages in the steets of gaza because they couldn't tell the difference between naked unarmed men begging for help, and Israeli naked unarmed men begging for help.
  and that just recently, did you know that Israel bombed Jewish communities in Iraq to force them to flee to Israel?
  Israel is a cancer for Jews.
  
  There’s your lack of imagination. “We have to commit genocide, it’s self defense”.
  that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying, fuck both these people groups.
  
  you said that if Israel doesn't genocide the Palestinians, them Palestinians would genocide the jews.
  I'd love to use that in a trial, if I murder a whole family to steal their house, your honour, if I would have let them live they might have used force to kick me out of their home
  
  you said that if Israel doesn’t genocide the Palestinians, them Palestinians would genocide the jews.
  no, what I'm saying is that Palestine is, has , will and if they had the means to, would attack israel (even more). Which, guess what, they do.
  I'm not saying is " if Israel doesn’t genocide the Palestinians, them Palestinians would genocide the jews.".
  Both groups of people are thirsty for blood and attack the other one.
  
  Do you think the fact that they are in an open air prison, under an illegal siege that lasted 20 years, with regular bombing of civilians might have something to do with their need for resistance?
  the only reason they took hostages is because Israel has over a thousand civilians in jail (including children), they never had a trial, and even in death their bodies aren't released and were cases where even the Knesset admitted they stole palestian prisoner's organs, and they are malnourished, tortured and raped.
  they wanted a hostage exchange.
  and don't give me BS that all those prisoners, who didn't had a trial, who were moved across international borders (war crime), were all terrorists, there's a lost of prisoners leaked during negotiations and the majority of prisoners were there for "Suspicions of [something]". Imagine raping children in jail because a soldier during an illegal occupation thought the child was suspicious?
  can't enforce violence to civilians, but cant deny the desperation that people have when a fascist ethnostate is doing all it can to maximise the human misery of people who's land they stolen.
  
  I don't really care. I'm tired of seeing news since I was born that say "Palestinian terrorist representatives launched rocket attacks into israel.." Delete as appropriate for time period : 2000 dead/200 dead /20 dead/0 dead because of the iron dome , "Retaliation by Israel has bombed 8 hospitals and killed 10,000 palestininans"
  Great, fuck them both. If the Palestinians got the same support israel did, the casualties would just be higher and nothing would change.
  
  So you are in favour of genocide, because the people being genocided are resisting the genocide?
  you are an idiot,
  
  Nope, I am in favour of a ceasefire. Doesn't mean I'm pro either side.
  
  cease fire? for how long? with the illegal siege? the only solution is the end of apartheid

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