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You didn't bought it you rented it!

I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

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I've been saying for about 15 years now -- you'd have to be a masochist to buy HP printers. Why do people keep enabling these shits? You just encourage them to be even worse. Don't stand for even a little of their bullshit and they will change or die. You make a noose for your own neck.
- HP have been on my shitlist for so long. Everyone needs to have a shitlist. Anti consumer behaviour should never be forgotten.
  On a side note, Vodafone are also on my shitlist. I did give them a reprieve once only to be reminded of why they were on my shitlist.
  People, get your shit together.
  
  Anti consumer behaviour should never be forgotten.
  I still don't buy Sony products after that time they booby trapped their CDs to install malware on everyone's computers.
  
  Yikes. They are all at some way to squeeze the consumer to ride higher profits for shareholders.
  Greed will never go away.
  
  I couldn't believe everybody else was just OK with that. I thought they'd go out of business over it!
- This is true if everybody do it, otherwise nothing will change. As we know there are too many people on the planet and too many idiots among them that will buy these products and so company can't get away with everything nowadays. Look at Facebook, Twitter, reddit, hp. In my country there's a huge food company that put fucking poison in baby formulas, and killed some of them (and others with lifetime growth issues) and guess what? People stopped buying from them for 2 years, they pulled through and now they are one of the top companies.
- People are still buying HP printers because there are no alternatives. In my experience Epson is the worst. The are all the same, and we have no alternative other than letting them fuck with us. And they know it.
  
  Brother has been amazing. Good products, manufacturer support for all operating systems, no subscription bullshit.
  
  No, I think that's blatantly wrong.
  Idk if Brother is the best no-bullshit alternative, but it's definitely supposed to be a no-bullshit alternative.
  Even if we had no other alternative, we could crowd-fund one.
  
  The Epson Eco Tank is absolutely amazing...HP sucks but don't shame Epson.
  
  I bought a expensive Ecotank because I loved the Idea of not having cartridges. To fill the tanks you still need cartridges though, so you still have the waste. No Eco in sight.
  The paper in- and outlets were very narrow, what made refilling paper a hassle.
  The software was very clunky, some cleaning programs did not work. After a year the prints became quite poor.
  Another year later this print heads were clogged, no matter how much alcohol we poured on it. I threw the whole thing away. Never again.
  The HP I hade a couple years ago was much better.
  I am not saying this company is better than the other, I am convinced they are all the same. Some products are better, some are worse.
  
  I've never used on owned an Epson but I've been hearing wonders about the EcoTank line.
  Affordable, lasting, dirt cheap ink, user replaceable printing heads, also cheap, and linux friendly.
  
  I would advise against it, see my other comment.
  
  Are we talking about the machines that have literal pull out trays for ink, that comes in very large bottles, or an earlier model?
  Because the EcoTanks I've been told about have those features.
- Funny thing is, I know all of this and their bad behavior. I needed a new printer, ordered it but they didn't have it in stock so they asked me to change my order and offered HP with extra toner and all that. Half asleep I didn't even think twice. It was good price, extra toner.
  From day one, nothing but problems until I broke the spell last year and got a Brother printer. Night and day in terms of quality and obedience.
  I assume that's the case with many people. Cheap printer available right now or some local deals make it even better looking. Someone who doesn't know better like mom or pop buys it and there it is, pain. Then they realize what they have done and perhaps sell the damn thing, so pain jumps on someone else who just needed a cheap printer.
- I've bought HP a few times, because the new printer was about the same price as buying new ink cartridges. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just being real. And I'm not proud
  
  That's how they get ya. The high cost of being poor

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