George R. R. Martin criticises other writers working with his material: "Often they do not improve it"
George R. R. Martin criticises other writers working with his material: "Often they do not improve it"
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If they finish it, they improve it.
Have you seen GoT Season 8?
I'd say it could have been improved by not existing.
GoT season 8 plays like an authors notebook. There are sketched ideas, completed scenes, and no transition work or idea completion beyond the half-assed.
The writers on GoT finished nothing. They appear to have set an authors idea notebook as a script instead of writing a complete script.
They could’ve done better. Ho’Dor for example. His full story arc is not in the book. Clearly, Martin had that scene fully written out in his little notebook. The writers worked that well and did it right. You could feel it. I’m getting chills all over again just thinking about it.
Those same writers got lazy in 8. It’s well documented they were trying to rush off to the next job. The good news is, they were fired from that next job for the terrible job they did on 8.
The good news is, they were fired from that next job for the terrible job they did on 8.
It's wild how vindictive people can be over a tv show. It wasn't perfect? Oh well. Just deal with it and move on. It's not worth harboring hate and resentment for those involved forever after.
The vitriol is laughable!
People are mad due to the steep fall from grace in the last two seasons. GoT was the best television I've ever seen, but I won't get far into season 7 before turning it off.
You should've seen firefly back in the day. We got one glorious season and I won't let the specter of joss wheden fuck that up fot me.
Said no firefly fan ever
Fair point, can't argue with that!
Why does everyone hate S8 so much?
Becaues it's really, really bad.
But what makes it bad? Can you elaborate? Cuz I watched it and I mean it wasn't as good as season 3 or whatever. But I didn't think that it was a total piece of shit either. I really just don't understand. I don't think. And Daenerys had been unhinged for seasons by the time she tried to burn King's Landing. I just don't understand it
The battle at Winterfell is a perfect microcosm of the issues. Even apart from the shit artistic work (everything was so dark you could barely see what was happening), almost every scene made no sense:
I can't think of a single good choice in that episode. It took one of the greatest series of all time, and made what is essentially the climax look worse than a B-movie from the 2000s
I agree. And there's tiny tweaks that would make it less shit, like the dothraki charging when they weren't supposed to cos they're the dothraki and that's what they do. Arya could have used the faceless man shit to sneak up on the night king. DONT PUT THE VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THE CRYPT FFS etc etc. Those small changes would make it a bit less bad... still bad, but not as abysmal
And just like that you've already put more thought into the episode than D&D did!
Ha! You're right I have. They clearly put zero effort into it
And Daenerys had been unhinged for seasons by the time she tried to burn King’s Landing.
Not quite like that. I remember feeling that she was very out of character when first watching S8. And she wasn't the only one. And a lot of storylines were just ended super abruptly, which just ruin years of built up.
But it's been quite a while since I've watched it. This drunk scottish bloke explains it quite well.
There were too many illogical moments that made the viewer scream, "Oh for crying out loud!"
I've never been one to look for those sorts of things, rarely notice on a first viewing, but here's one that grabbed me:
Daenerys is the heroine for flying her dragon around the corner to see the incoming invasion fleet. Posting a dude with a signal fire on the cliff overlooking the only invasion route would have done the trick.
The dialogue isn't nearly as good as other seasons. Characters did abrupt about turns like Jamie throwing all his character development away. Ridiculous coincidences happened like Euron and Jamie randomly washing up on the same beach. Non credible things happened, like a light layer of bricks killing Cersei and Jamie. Plots went nowhere. It's just... shit.
You're not crazy. It wasn't as bad as everyone says, it just wasn't as good as earlier seasons. The people freaking out about it were either far too wrapped up in a tv show, or just get off on hating things.
Thank you for supporting my hypothesis
For some, the the bar is just being entertained, and that's fine. For those that appreciated the depth of story and characterization earlier on, it was a tremendous disappointment. If you don't or cant appreciate those aspects, trying to invalidate them to justify your opinion isn't necessary. It's fine for people to be critical and expect more from their media; especially for a series that had a marked decline in quality.
Lol. You're not being "critical" by calling the season garbage, you're just throwing a fit. Actual critique includes both the good and the bad, objectively. I.e. - not letting disappointment overshadow everything else, and definitely not wishing ill of the people involved.
*Also worth pointing out the incredible hypocrisy of saying the over-the-top raging is totally fine, but anyone criticizing that is a step to far. Sure thing, bud.
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