In the past week and a half, I've noticed Reddit behaviors starting to try and poison all of the places that people are taking refuge in to get away from the toxicity, myself included. They've started to DDoS Lemmy for a while, which is a Reddit thing to do and what they're notorious of doing whenever they feel they don't like something.
And now they've been trickling in numbers, these incredibly toxic users that behave as they would on Reddit. The reckless shitposting, derailing open civil discussions with unfunny and irrelevant jokes. The downvote brigading and banding together to get you banned. This exact thing has happened to me on Lemmy, that I had to leave because the toxicity was gradually building.
We should reject Reddit toxicity in general, tell them they don't have a place here or anywhere. They know where they can dump their shit in, but they feel that because they've made mountains of it, that they've got to come over to other places and do it all over again.
I left Reddit because the toxicity levels have gotten unbearable. I really am yearning for a place where I can talk in and not be antagonized. I'm sure others are too.
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Are you the same person as this guy? You seem to keep making new accounts and posts to hide your post history and complain about redditors.
I certainly can't know whether what you've experienced is actually toxicity or just criticism, as I can't see your post history. But any site with sufficient mass will be flooded with people like this. All the way back to 1993.
Part of being online anywhere with open signups and free discussion is just dealing with that sort of thing. The only way to prevent it is to spin up your own defederate instance and only allow people to join who you deem worthy of conversation with.
Oh nice, stalkers. Cool, said no one.
And no I disagree, the only way to prevent toxicity is for a moderation team to give a damn and maybe for the toxic users to realize that they won't be tolerated. I've never understood this stance where the "best" way to deal with something is to just find your own gathering. I don't have a following and I don't want to develop some following so I feel like I can talk. Everyone should have the privilege to talk where they want without the pressure of being antagonized.
The problem isn't the other people. The problem is the individuals who get confrontational and pose problematic behaviors. Not the other way around.
You seem pretty toxic to me.
Whatever, in your book. Block and move on.
Done and done!
If you keep trying to change human nature you’re going to be disappointed.
Complaining that other people do not live up to your standards is tiresome.
Easier to go where you are comfortable than to insist others change their behavior.
Who says I'm trying to change the entirety of human behavior?
What standards?
I've been hopping an awful lot from platform to platform at this point, trying to find this "comfort". You and other people have been encouraging this idea of isolation which isn't healthy on the human mind, just so you know, so you're coming off as blatantly unhelpful.
Changing people's behaviors isn't my goal, infact, I am having difficulty finding this invented problem you've made about changing people's behaviors. When, all I've said up and down, that I've noted of said behaviors and that I advocate we should not welcome it. Where are you getting this concept, besides inventing it, that it is about changing behavior? You can't change an asshole's behavior, they're going to be assholes regardless. All I'm saying is to reject it and make them unwelcome because they have no place in ecosystems where we're all trying to collectively be contributing and civil whereas, they're not.
Your whole post is complaining that people on Reddit are being jerks on Lemmy and telling everyone else what to do about it.
Go where the jerks aren't.
They actually seem to have moved off lemmy and onto kbin (where we are right now)
Uh, no.
Why should I have to be hopping because people decide, mind you, to be intolerant? It's a you problem, not a me problem, as hard as a fight as you're trying to win in making me believe otherwise. You're spinning so hard.
Ah the old “everyone’s wrong except me”.
Good luck with that.
If you want to take up the time burden of moderating large communities for free you can contribute to the solution but it is a lot of work with no compensation, so there is a valid reason that throwing more moderation at the problem is much easier said than done
I'm probably some of the few people who'll actually be glad to be moderating large communities. The problem is that, people wouldn't like how I handle things because god forbid I actually move and act to resolve problems. Than letting it sit there and just remain untouched like I see so other instances of moderation do.
Please do not ever apply to moderate anything. You will destroy the community. To be quite honest, with the attitude on display in this thread, you would be one of the first people to earn themselves a ban from somewhere I was in charge of.
Personally I've extremely rarely ever had the sorts of experiences you claim to have either on reddit or on the Fediverse. Especially not having groups of people hunt me down for my opinions. If everywhere you go smells like shit, you should check your own shoes - I find it difficult to believe that you haven't been bringing this upon yourself with your behavior.
Well fortunately on Lemmy people can create multiple versions of the same community to be ran in different manners. People can vote with subscribership. Beehaw is an example of a more heavily moderated instance that might align better with your goals and opinions about this. If the space you’re in takes a more laissez-faire approach to moderation, but that is the general desire of the community, it makes sense not to impose your desires on them if other more congruent options exist.
Hey, it's the fediverse! Make your own instance and your own magazines on there, and if there are like-minded folks who appreciate your moderation, your instance will grow. You'd generally not have to depend on the whims of other mods or admins that way, but have nearly full control over your own safe space.
Honestly, from your posts in this thread, you're the last kind of person I'd want moderating a community.
The problem isn't the other people. The problem is the individuals who get confrontational and pose problematic behaviors. Not the other way around.
No one else has been confrontational in this discussion except you.
You are using Kbin, which means you can block not just magazines/communities, but instances, and individual users.
I imagine increased moderation will come in time, to some communities on some instances, but frankly one of the benefits of the Fediverse is the control it gives you over who can and cannot make it into your feed. This is a lot of foot stomping about something you can largely control yourself.
You are using Kbin, which means you can block not just magazines/communities, but instances, and individual users.
This. I really think they haven't got their head around what kbin is, yet.
I've never understood this stance where the "best" way to deal with something is to just find your own gathering
What would your alternative be? Are you one of those types of people that want to censor people you disagree with? If someone says something that hurts your fee-fees, fucking ignore them. Really easy to do.