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If your first instinct as a westerner is to criticize and lecture 3rd world communist movements, instead of learning from their successes, then you have internalized the patronizing arrogance of the colonial system you claim to oppose.
It seems like you think I want some kind of idiotic peaceful revolution? Or why post that?
You never explained what you believe in. You just came here with a kneejerk reaction to the meme that criticizes the way westerners often do want an idiotic peaceful revolution, when we explained why we disagreed with your reaction you have just been on a tirade against "hate" which is deeply anti-materialist. If you agree with the revolutionary agenda then by all means, I'm sorry for dogpiling you, but you shouldn't spend so much energy arguing against people who also agree with you on the broad strokes?
I vehemently disagree with every reply and the op though. I think the intensely self explanatory "hate" you employ is not useful for the intent it pretends to be useful for. It does nothing and in fact is to the detriment of any actual revolution in a real impactful way. The increasingly under educated people are interacting with even more clueless hate mongering and it becomes impossible to move out of the capitalist quagmire. It plays into their hand. The consuming and proliferation of this hatred is CONTENT, rage bait content fueling capitalism and disillusioning actual interested people.
But how do you expect people to pick up weapons and fight a revolution without understanding just how horrible capitalists have been to them? I don't think people should be guided by hate, I agree with you there, solidarity is much better than hate as a guiding principle. But the way I see it, people already hate a lot. They hate minorities, the homeless, foreigners, entire foreign states, etc. etc. So the function of our agitating propaganda is to redirect the hate that people feel towards things that haven nothing to do with their oppression into the actual source of their oppression, the capitalist system.
Ah yes.
We are suffering from not knowing how bad capitalism is for us
Definitely
Yes? Obviously not on lemmy, but do you think in general most people have identified capitalism as the root cause of material scarcity and alienation? Do you think they'd keep voting for liberals and fascists if they had?
Yeah, I do
That doesn't make any sense.
I don't know how to further the statement for understanding. Yes, I think they would still vote that way. They are lost in specific other mind traps and most if not all understand the damage capitalism has and is causing in their life.
Then they don't actually understand capitalism, do they? If someone told me they understood thermodynamics but kept trying to build a perpetual motion machine, even if they were using some thermodynamics concepts in their attempts, it's still clearly the case that they don't understand thermodynamics. If you claim to understand that the root cause of your problems is capitalism but you keep voting for pro-capitalist governments, did you really understand anything at all?
There's all kinds of rationale used. For some reason, that's one of the few places they allow complete diversity