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  • other than when it comes time to shut down bigotry

    I came into hexbear disagreeing with something or other that got posted, and then started talking about Biden when someone brought him up. They threatened to kill me, threatened to stab me with an icepick, sent me shit pictures, and then banned me. This whole "they're open to dissent, just not bigotry" is about as convincing as a MAGA person saying "we allow everyone, just not trolls" and then throwing a total unhinged wobbler if anyone ever disagrees with them and then banning the person for "trolling" saying they must have been inviting the wobbler by disagreeing.

    It's a standard playbook for fig-leaf-justifying censoring a space. It actually really works well for producing a bizarre echo-chamber which doesn't really understand what anyone outside the echo chamber believes.

    If your forum allows polite dissent from people on the team, but gives some of the most aggressive hostility and bans I've ever seen to anyone who actually disagrees, just say so and own it. Don't do this bullshit of pretending it is something else.

    • I went and checked, was it on this account? The only thing I see in their modlog is you got a comment removed- this one:

      and like I agree with removing that, it just looks like you're doing this:

      You didn't even get banned.

      Like I've actually tried looking up every time I see someone complaining about draconian mod actions and more often then not it's something that just someone stirring shit and getting their wrist slapped, rather than the free speech 1984 gulag that they go on to complain about elsewhere.

      • My whole instance is defederated from Hexbear as far as I can tell. I can't quite make sense of what shows in their "instances" page, but I'm not in "allowed." Also, entertainingly enough they are apparently happy to make use of my RSS feed communities from rss.ponder.cat, although apparently totally uninterested in the actual news contained there. No one is subscribed to anything except for hackaday.

        Here, look at this: https://ponder.cat/c/art@hexbear.net -- I am subscribed, but it hasn't updated in 6 months ever since I participated in that thread.

        As I explained in that thread when someone sent me that same picture, I am not at all fantasizing about Trump sending pro-Palestinian or pro-migrant people to concentration camps. I'm not by any means happy about it. That's why I tried to stop it from happening and was alarmed when they were uninterested in one particular way of stopping it. Surely that makes sense? Or yes it does, or no?

        • weird, your instance is not defederated on the hexbear side, not sure what's going on there, it definitely looks like you aren't getting posts.

          As I explained in that thread when someone sent me that same picture, I am not at all fantasizing about Trump sending pro-Palestinian or pro-migrant people to concentration camps. I’m not by any means happy about it.

          I get that, but you can see how someone could read that and feel like that's what you were saying?

          That’s why I tried to stop it from happening and was alarmed when they were uninterested in one particular way of stopping it.

          All 80+ mil people who didn't vote aren't on lemmy. Some powerless online anarchists/communists failing to tow the line on shit isn't why the ruling party essentially got swept in an incumbent election. I voted in a blue state for the communist because I agree with what they had to say about things more than I do Democrats or Republicans. It had objectively no impact. Maybe if more of the Democrats who feel as strongly as you fell into line with me instead we could actually be in a position to be using this horrifying war machine for something positive.

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