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  • why does it look like you're breaking their knees?

    • some of us are just clumsy ๐Ÿ˜„

      • tries to strut down hallway, immediately whacks hand on doorknob hard enough to hear

        grabs hand and leans over in pain, accidently headbutting the wall

        • omg I feel that so much

          I have:

          • fallen down stairs 5+ times, breaking my ankle on two such occasions
          • stubbed my one of my middle toes on a door frame when attempting to walk out of my bathroom, splitting a toenail
          • regularly run into walls, corners, and door frames
          • regularly stub my toes on bed frames
          • broken so many glasses and plates my parents thought something was wrong with me

          I am usually paying attention (I think) and able to see well (I think); I suspect my proprioception is just off. When I was a kid, the ball often hit me in the face when attempting to play sports. I had a hard time coordinating my body, even when trying. There was a notable improvement when I started estrogen, I was able to navigate in the dark better than before, but I still run into objects so it could just be placebo.

          • I've generally heard it referred to as the "ADHD walk", myself. My hands generally take the worst of it; if anything i feel like I'm a little too spacially aware of the rest of my body

            • oo, that makes sense - I'm starting to suspect I might be neurodivergent, so it might turn out to be a semi-appropriate label for me ๐Ÿ˜…

              The hands on the doorknob hurt so much - I can feel it just from your description, it almost makes me feel sick, lol

              • I'm working on getting an adult diagnosis for ADHD now haha, first major appointment is next week.

                Literally just learned these two things tonight that explain so damn much

                https://neurolaunch.com/adhd-sitting-weird/

                https://www.healthline.com/health/fitness/postural-sway-adhd

                • Might also look into ASD, sometimes ASD can be the underlying cause of ADHD symptoms, see:

                  https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2022.837424/full

                  How you react to stimulants might help differentiate, people with ADHD usually respond to stimulant medication differently.

                  Also, there is suspected overlap in the genetic causes of ASD and gender dysphoria:

                  https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/104/2/390/5104458

                  Polymorphisms in two genes were overrepresented in transgender women by allele analysis but not by the (more stringent) genotype analysis.

                  ...

                  Second, the G allele in STS is associated with reduced enzyme levels; this has been noted mostly in studies of ADHD (41), a condition with fivefold increased incidence of gender dysphoria (42), suggesting a possible overlap in etiology.

                  and ASD and ADHD both are associated with higher rates of gender dysphoria:

                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24619651/

                  As compared to non-referred comparisons, participants with ASD were 7.59 times more likely to express gender variance; participants with ADHD were 6.64 times more likely to express gender variance.

                  Either way, congrats on moving forward with diagnosis!

                  • Thanks! And yeah, my reaction to stimulants is abnormal: energy drink = relaxed (i still like them tho), something warm like coffee puts me out like a light. Had a childhood ADHD diagnosis but any/all medical records from back then might as well not exist.

                    • yeah, and I'm not familiar with whether the ASD matches the postural issues linked in the articles you shared - sounds more like ADHD than ASD. Interesting!

                      It's more ambiguous in my case, I can't tell whether I have ASD or ADHD or both, lol

                      • 70% of people with ASD have ADHD, and it's suspected that the same mechanisms are at play with the conditions. Pathology is heavily centered on treatments for what's deemed necessary for us "function" in society. While not without uses, it's a limited way of viewing psychological differences

                      • ASD and ADHD both feel like a dangerous diagnosis to have on record with Mr Brainworms in play. Its fucked up that our existence can be politicized and used against us ๐Ÿ˜

                        Still, its causing me a great deal more stress and depression to not deal with it. Id like to actually be able to start things in my life, and not just passively exist. Actually play my steam catalog on the pc i just built instead of just watching youtube and anime

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