3d ago

Dodge Ram in the Netherlands

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Source: stux@mstdn.social

"This is why we don't need #US #cars in #Europe"

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“This is why we don’t need #US #cars in #Europe”
We don't need this shit in the US, either. I hope that tram just rammed the fucker.
- I hope the city seized the truck, auctioned it off, and fined the owner for littering.
  
  In Estonia, at your second ~~speeding~~ drunk-driving violation they confiscate your vehicle - and if it's an SUV they send it to Ukraine.
  For backstory, see latest episode of the podcast The Urbanist Agenda.
  
  I heard this was if you get caught for drunk driving the second time, they stepped up their game damn.
  
  You're right, I meant drunk driving, not speeding.
  But some countries take speeding pretty seriously too (as they should). In Norway you get a short jail spell for something like a 30kmh excess. In Switzerland the fines are adjusted for income so that rich speeders pay more - one guy paid over €1 million! Same system in Finland too, I believe.
  
  Speeding and drink driving play a big part in traffic deaths and also the cost of fixing all the people who do survive is totally preventable so I am all for it. Progressive fines sound very fair too, misbehaving companies in some cases also pay a percentage of their profit so why not citizens as well.
  
  My wealthy ex’s family would just pay the tickets, so he never learned.
  I’d beg him not to go 40 in school zones.
  
  Could be that their wealth caused them not to care about fines, if they had to pay 5% of that wealth every time they would definity take it easy in school zones.
  
  Don't you get deducted points for speeding? Like after a while wouldn't he lose his license, regardless of how much he pays?
  
  Where I live you only get deducted points for some kinds of speeding. Speeding in a school zone or residential street? Lose points. Excessive speeding? Lose points. Going 120kph in a 110kph zone on the highway between cities? Smallish fine and be on your way.
  
  Clarification: titled "Let's Send our Pickup Trucks to Ukraine (with Build the Lanes)"
  https://podcastaddict.com/the-urbanist-agenda/episode/196176727
  Since, y'know... in a few weeks it won't be the latest one anymore.
  
  This was a great episode, and was great to hear this way to use trucks....
  
  Thank you for the podcast tip, I'd like to learn more about what you described!
  
  More like melted it down for scrap
  
  and turned it into a new tram (because it's almost the same size as the fkn tram)
  
  I don't think we necessarily need to melt down the owner...
- I hope too. But because the news headline would be "Dodge Rammed"
  
  Driver comes running over to move the car just in time… “Ram Dodged”
  
  The Most Holy Ram Dodge
- I know we're being hyperbolic here but hard disagree -- how awful would that be for everyone on-board? And absolutely not worth the damage to public infrastructure. There's an established procedure for dealing with blockages, and I hope that process irreparably damages the truck and results in a hefty fine for the owner
  
  Not great for adjacent vehicles either
  
  Yeah exactly. Even in jest I loathe this unquestioned impulse to punish the offender without any thought to collateral. This driver's primary offense is being oblivious to their impact on others -- what message is sent if the reaction is just as oblivious?
  Okay I'm done policing morals.

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