Trump Claims Nazis Treated Jewish Prisoners With “Love”
Trump Claims Nazis Treated Jewish Prisoners With “Love”
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I don't want to defend Trump in anyway but this is a hystirical headline meant to generate clicks and attention.
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
What I think he is trying to say in a very weird way is Nazi's treated Jews better than Hamas does now.
Yes the orange monkey is very stupid and crazy for saying shit like this, again I don't want to defend him in any way but the article does not say that Trump thinks Nazi's loved Jews.
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You're participating in the old good tradition of sanewashing what Trump said. You don't need to interpret that jumble of sounds as charitably as possible, he doesn't deserve it, and he repeatedly showed that he actually means the worst most of the time. He said "nazis showed signs of love to holocaust victims" with his own stupid mouth. You don't need to excuse him by interpreting it as if he didn't say it.
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I knew this thread would be FILLED with Trump apologist. He literally said "was there any love?... Like there was in Germany"
It's not taking it too far. It's what he said. We don't need to figure out if he meant a prison guard or Germans in general. We don't need to excuse what he meant by adding precision he didn't add. According to Trump there was love for Jews in Nazi Germany.
I'm so glad to see at least a few people resisting the sanewashing.
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Well, If it wouldn't be Trump I might be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he was actually referring to the few people that helped Jews escape or that hid them somewhere.
But in this context ("giving them an extra slice of bread") this doesn't seem to make much sense.
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Jesus fucking Christ. It is a sad day when a person that actually read the article and provided context and quotes to rebuke an obvious clickbait title is accused of sanewashing Trump.
Sometimes Lemmy can be a worse disinformation-spreading echo chamber than Reddit ever was. Be better.
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I read the article, I saw the interview. He literally said "was there any love?... Like there was in Germany"
What I skipped is only a description of what Trump thinks love is (extra piece of bread and a wink) and that hamas didn't do it. The two clauses are literally directly connected.
I know it's hard to believe that's what he said. Unfortunately you'll have to accept it to deal with the modern reality.
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Thanks, there is a lot of sanewashing going on in the media and lemmy. Me trying to explain why he might say something as stupid and hurtful like this is perhaps also sanewashing him. But I did want to post those quotes mainly because I feel Lemmy and the Internet is general is better off if we base our hate and dislike (which I certainly agree with in Trumps) on things that actually happend.
Yes Trump said something very crazy, even for him more crazy than usual but falling for headlines like this is not gonna make it easier to talk with people who support Trump or someone like him and polarization played, I think, a huge part in why he could get elected. If we choose to make lemmy a place that polarizes people it will give people like Trump power.
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on things that actually happend.
The thing you're saying didn't happen literally happen, what are you talking about?
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He didn't literally say "Nazi's threated Jewish people with love", it is crazy he implied it but I want to point out the difference because if you ads in an argument with someone supports trump you only have a valid point if you use factual truths and if you'd tell a trump supporter that trump thinks Nazi's loved Jews they could easily say you're wrong because you're not using his own words but a dramatized version of them.
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Yeah but he kind of did anyway, reading from what you just posted there. That was an insane ramble
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What do you mean hysterical headline? He said exactly what the headline said. In the full context he looks stupider but what he said is the same.
Why are you trying to defend a guy saying the Nazis were gooder than Hamas? Why would you ever take that fight unless you are a liar or stupid?
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I'm reminded of the initial framework that Auschwitz used for Jews. Many of them came voluntarily, because the Germans were making vague promises of "We're planning a Jewish settlement where you will be safe, and kept separate from the German Aryan future." So I could be reaching, but maybe he's interpreting something around that - the idea of using "nice gestures" (lies) to lure people in and humanize themselves.
Of course, it's a reach in any regard to interpret something coherent from Donald Trump, especially when regarding history.
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