Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule
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So I thought I would look at the modlog in this thread
A comment was removed starting with
Not really seeing [...]
Heavily downvoted sure, but what rule is it breaking?
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They were banned for transphobia. Finish that comment. Don't cherry pick their words. Transphobia and bigotry are against the rules here. As a cis person, I don't get to decide what is transphobic; trans people do.
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I don't think they got banned? not sure
I didn't post the whole comment precisely because it got removed by a mod.
In my view, the moderation of a forum should be based on rules, not on individual's judgements.
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I banned them. And transphobia is against the rules of this entire instance (not just this community).
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If we can tell the differences between woman, why do different rules apply depending if youre born woman or not?
Besides having an opinion about something that doesnt affect you, seems quite reasonable is it not?
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You aren't the judge of when someone is or isn't a woman, though. The only person whose opinion matters in that case is the woman herself.
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I think the issue is that there is no such thing as a "biological woman". Manhood/womanhood is an issue of gender, not sex, and gender is something that we collectively made up whose meaning varies from person to person and from culture to culture. The only person who is capable of saying "Person McFaceface is/is not a woman" is Person McFaceface.
Even if we were to interpret their comment to mean "sex", that isn't a simple binary yes/no kind of question. There is no single trait that determines maleness or femaleness, and lots of people have traits indicative of both sexes or of neither sex (or they were born that way then surgically altered shortly after birth), and sometimes those traits are so hidden and so internal that the person themself doesn't know about it.
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But do you think it deserved to be removed? You could have answered that directly to the commenter
IMO, this is too strict.
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Yes, I do. This is a space where trans rights and trans people are respected. That means that their existence is accepted as fact, not debated in the comment section.
There are numerous places and resources available for that person to educate themself, if they had chosen to do so before commenting. Instead, they chose to comment from a place of ignorance. We have no obligation to offer them that education here.
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I'm just enforcing the rules of this instance. Specifically hate towards any specific group (which includes rhetoric designed to oppress) is against the rules.
Sorry, not sorry. In fact, I took great joy in removing the transphobes from this comment section. I only removed egregious errors.
In a way you could say I'm maliciously complying with the instance rules.
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I got that yesterday, why the encore?
use that tiny amount of power you say you enjoy so much and ban me. This good people circlejerk is of no interest
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You've not said anything rule breaking, let alone transphobic enough to be banned. Saying unpopular things will not get you banned/comment removed.
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Is being a terrible person with bad takes against the rules? I haven't checked.
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Thee has't did challenge the hive mind, anon prepareth to receiveth downvot'd to oblivion
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I actually think a lot of people are confused because they didn't read the article or know what community they're in, so I'll take the downvotes in stride.
Trans people are people too no matter which arrow you hit.
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Mods are hive minds? Are you sure about that?
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Not talking about the other guy, but about the guy who I was answering
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