3w ago

Sailfish os?

What you think about this operating software? Pretty niche still, but if its alright maybe we could take the next step and use a almost open source os?

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AFAIK, Sailfish OS has quite strong ties with russia. I love the approach and the choice of technology, and enjoyed it a lot (much more than the iOS/Android approach) — the platform is indeed magnificent and has quite a few great things about it. Although, I see relying on Sailfish OS to be quite a risky choice, given their close ties with russia and unknown status of their support of russian version of the OS.
- Sailfish OS is developed by Jolla, who are a Finish company with offices in Finland (Tampere and Helsinki) and China (Hong Kong).
  The Russians have forked Sailfish into Aurora OS, but that's a separate system. It started out as a cooperation, but Jolla cut all ties with Russia in 2021.
  It seems they had Russian investors and took active means to get rid of them:
  In 2024, to escape Russia's investors due to the Ukrainian war, the Jolla initial company filed for bankruptcy, continuing its activity under the JollyBoys name.
  I would obviously not use Aurora OS, but do you have any information that would indicate that @jolla@techhub.social or Sailfish OS are compromised?
  
  I do not as of now, although I am still very suspicious about the company, partly because of weird “no politics” response when team was asked to claim their stance on full-blown invasion. As a strong reason for it is that Jolla business with russia was being done after Crimea peninsula annexation.
  Bottom line: I do not see this platform as being actively involved with warmongering state, but as one that directly supported an ability for it, and a potential risk.
  
  More or less the entirety of western society failed in not sanctioning Russia profoundly in 2014, and we are now paying the cost. No doubt. But I wouldn't exaggerate Jolla's role - going through a bankruptcy to shake investors off seems to me to be dedication, even if it might be a bit late.
  
  Yeah, I see your point, and it kind of makes sense to see bankruptcy as an attempt to start clean. I did not know about that, thanks for letting me know.
  Still, my take is that Jolla’s products should be considered carefully, and history should be taken into account.
  
  I think phone operating systems are incredibly sensitive software, and they should always be considered carefully. So no disagreement there.
  Ironic as fuck then that I'm currently using stock Android. Oh well.
  
  Yeah… I know the feeling :)
- They severed all ties with Russia several years ago, I think the company is now entirely Finnish.

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