9个月前

Internet forums are disappearing because now everything is Reddit and Discord. And that's worrying.

www-xataka-com.translate.goog Los foros de internet están desapareciendo porque ahora todo es Reddit y Discord. Y eso es preocupante

Hubo un tiempo en que los foros de discusión eran nuestras redes sociales. Los usuarios visitaban aquellos que se ajustaban a cierta temática y eso les...

What are we going to do about it?

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Subreddits were not a problem before since they were accessible on the web without needing an account. But now reddit is gradually locking them down behind authwalls and things like not letting search engines index (other than Google).
Lemmy communities dont have this problem and because lemmy is federated, its resistant to such enshittification (plus you can easily create your own lemmy instance for only your team). So imo they are a good alternative to forums (and reddit) and a good solution to this problem.
- What can we do to get more people to switch over to Lemmy from Reddit?
  
  I guess once more and more content is posted here, naturally more people will come. And also any further steps of reddit enthitiffication will move people over.
  
  Can we actively do something to help this process?
  
  yes. do what i’ve been doing. tell your irl acquaintances about the fediverse. tell them about the lack of algorithm and the lack of ads. tell them about the lack of billionaires farming you and yours for data.
  
  Already on it! ✊
  But I think we need a simple elevator pitch to win them over. No ads is definitely a great start.
  
  It's reddit with better/real people. Most people probably can feel reddit going to shit. Quality of comments is way down.
  
  That's true. Quantity over quality.
  
  but that was my elevator pitch.
  
  You are right. 😅 Basically all important information in there.
  
  The main thing is post more. Lack of content is the main reason people don't use Lemmy more, and the only way to fix this is to share/produce more.
  Its a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I think even (transparent, community-relevant) bots are a good idea at this point, given that 99% of interests have little to no activity currently. For example, if we had bots that post game update changelogs to their relevant communities, it would at least provide a baseline amount of content and make it easier to discuss for fans of those games.
  
  post, comment, I keep seeing nonfedrrated options pop up because they know ppl are tired of stuff like reddit and are trying to grab ppl
  
  Which ones? Haven't seen any others yet.
  
  Some forum software is starting to support activitypub with plugins. If they add the plugin then you can follow and interact with the forum from Lemmy. The best option for everyone is to start pestering forum admins to add those plugins so they get users and Lemmy gets more content.
  Long term creating migration scripts for popular forum software like phpBB, so content, users, etc, can be moved to a custom Lemmy instance would be an option.
  
  That sounds like an awesome idea! I'm sure that many forum owners don't even know that they can federate.
  
  More Lemmy posts in search results
  
  Awesome. Let's do that! :)
  
  Start copying as many of the top searches that bring people to Reddit. Have them answered here, possibly in more detail, or maybe copy paste.
  
  That's a great idea!
  
  I found Lenny because someone posted about it on reddit
  
  Awesome! What was the post and what convinced you?
  
  I honestly don’t remember exactly but I think people were complaining about Reddit’s trajectory and someone mentioned lemmy voyager so I download it immediately.
  
  Cool. And are you still using Reddit or are you using Lemmy exclusively?
  
  I keep an eye for engaging content on reddit and just rip it here. Mastodon and I think even BlueSky ran on repost bots in the early days. People have to find stuff here first.
  I think, though, I stuck a Leminal Space link in my bio or upvoted a Luigi and got banned. So, not sure if you can directly link to Leminal over there or not.
  
  People have to find stuff here first.
  I have thought about creating a bot to crosspost content from reddit here but I suppose they will quickly block access. RSS could work to a degree, but it doesn't include the full content and media.
  If you or somebody else has ideas, I'm listening.
  I think, though, I stuck a Leminal Space link in my bio or upvoted a Luigi and got banned. So, not sure if you can directly link to Leminal over there or not.
  I have a link to my instance in the bio and regularly post about it and haven't had problems with exposure until now.
  
  I have thought about creating a bot to crosspost content from reddit here but I suppose they will quickly block access.
  https://lemmit.online/ ?
  
  That's cool! Definitely have to check it out.
  
  FYI, the general consensus is that people disliked it as it was just a systematic repost bot from Reddit.
  Reposting from Reddit is fine, but you need to filter the good content from the bad one
  
  I thought about only crossposting uprising content and only a few a day. Simply crossposting everything would be definitely a bad idea.
  
  !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  The pinned posts have ways to present Lemmy in a clear way to new joiners
  
  Some good stuff there. Thanks!
  
  Happy to help.
  There's also !fedigrow@lemm.ee about community growing (so more internal than external growth). Happy to discuss there as well.
  
  Would love to! I'm already subscribed.
  
  Just FYI, you'll see that the consensus over there is that consolidation is beneficial to a lot of topics, as you can see on the latest topics there
- I'd like to see fedi software evolve past just cloning twitter and reddit into more diverse offerings, like forums

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