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European alternatives to Google's Gmail

cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

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Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.
- yes, one comment saying that republicans do one thing right means exactly what you wrote
  
  Here's the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself
  
  He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of "the little guys" (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it's an extremely tone-deaf tweet.
  
  What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That's effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.
  
  Also, it's so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump's every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.
  
  There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can't just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you've got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you've got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO's mouth.
  
  It's one more than I'd like.
- Here! I found the American bot.
  
  Proton is a perfectly good alternative. Encrypted and European based. Also one of the easiest User Experiences for those moving out of Gmail.
  
  This kind of nonsense just creates confusion and leads to people sticking with Gmail/Google
  
  Edit: the bots also vote. Yay
  
  Why did you completely ignore the content of the comment? You're the one sounding like a bot here.
  
  Because the content of the comment has been addressed multiple times in threads like this. As with everything, the world is not black and white.
  
  This thread and comment on Reddit do a better job on addressing the comment (sorry for linking for Reddit)
  
  https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/s/nfKrbQtYZt
  
  We know Trump for over a decade now. I don't buy this apologist approach to excusing the shitty behavior of people in the spotlight. If you have half a brain you know by now what type of person Trump is and from a CEO I expect more then half a brain.
  
  Regardless, Proton products are a better choice then Google.
  
  @professionalspooner @verdigris @buyeuropean people are entitled to their opinion though. If they don't want a product because of it's CEO, that's totally fine
  
  E.g.: see Tesla nowadays.
  
  Yeah but if they spread misinformation about the CEO, it can be called out
  
  Why not explain yourself here? I don't want to give Spez the traffic
  
  I am sorry. I would never make it justice to the whole discussion.
  
  Here's a troddit link which I just learned that exists andis open source.
  
  https://www.troddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1ixywld/lets_settle_the_debate_proton_ceo_is_not_protrump
  
  I hope that's helpful.
  
  I would never make it justice to the whole discussion
  
  Then maybe don't act like you're the one with the answers more than everyone else.
  
  Calling someone a "bot" doesn't refute anything. It's just a childish response because you disagree. While you also seem to be unable to explain this stance for yourself. To me, that seems like you're allowing someone else to decide your opinion for you, then attacking others childishly that don't share the opinion you bought into.
  
  I don’t like what you’re saying. You must be a bot!
  
  Explain please.
  
  Is "bot" now the new "NPC" for morons?
  
  I'm sorry, but they are an even more closed ecosystem than even Gmail: one cannot use a regular email client with Proton
  
  @exchange12rocks @professionalspooner @buyeuropean AFAIK with a paid subscription you can set up a bridge which would allow you to use it with Thunderbird etc
  
  I didn't know about the bridge, thank you!
  
  Yes! That sucks.
  
  From what I understand, that's their way to do e2e encryption between proton emails. They have this bridge thing, which unfortunately you can't use on free plans.
  
  Proton Mail Bridge is a desktop application that runs in the background, encrypting and decrypting messages as they enter and leave your computer. It lets you add your Proton Mail account to your favorite email client via IMAP/SMTP by creating a local email server on your computer.
  
  https://proton.me/mail/bridge
  
  I agree that this is a problem, and that it is worse than Google.
  
  But for me personally, putting it all on a scale I still think it is better than having your emails mined for ads targeting.
  
  Thank you for the explanation - didn't know about the bridge 👍
  
  You're the only bot here bud

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