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I may have missed it, but you didn't mention the time he removed links to a very reputable news org because they were hosted on substack: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40774736
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Best example of their response when proven wrong
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Slightly off topic, but mentioning it cuz i see it mentioned in your example: What was Jordan's obsession with that MBFC bot anyway?
Did he personally invest in it or something? I remember he didn't really wanna stop using it even when everyone pointed out how bad it was. His attachement to that thing was so strange to me.
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And he even lied and said an admin forced them to use it, and the admin team said "No? We never said anything about that."
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I don't know how come he was allowed to stay a mod after that.
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Because he does the job .world wants him to do, remove anything that would get shit done in America, and calling out those who prevent it. They're Reddit 2.0.
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Just because one admin told the users doesn't necessarily mean that some other admin didn't tell him something different at some other point.
It's weird, and Jordan didn't do himself any favors by suddenly falling silent at that point in the conversation like Homer backing into the bushes, but I wouldn't automatically assume that it's proven that Jordan was lying, just because it would be such a bizarre and pointless thing to lie about.
FWIW the most coherent theory I ever heard for all the MBFC insanity was that someone had a sponsorship deal with Ground News and they were getting paid some tiny amount of money because of the Ground News link that the bot inserted into its comments. That or just severe mental / organizational dysfunction on somebody's part were the only two explanations for the whole weird situation that I ever heard that made any substantial amount of sense.
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FWIW the most coherent theory I ever heard for all the MBFC insanity was that someone had a sponsorship deal with Ground News and they were getting paid some tiny amount of money because of the Ground News link that the bot inserted into its comments.
Honestly, not impossible with how many times Ground News gets podcasts/political things to advertise for them.
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I always thought it was mbfc doing a sponsorship. Didn't they only add the ground news part after people pointed out how many issues mbfc had?
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- FWIW the most coherent theory I ever heard for all the MBFC insanity was that someone had a sponsorship deal with Ground News and they were getting paid some tiny amount of money because of the Ground News link that the bot inserted into its comments.
I 100 percent believe this is the scenairo. I always have believed it.
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All he ever said was it helped modding, but never went into more detail. Guess thought support was required to stay a mod?
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"I will refuse to give support if I don't stay as a mod." is probably what Jordan said.
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I don't know about the source itself not being reputable, and I really don't want to defend Lund, but honestly, Substack has been so crazy pro-nazi that I wouldn't allow it either just for the safety of the comm.
https://www.techpolicy.press/substack-founder-defends-commercial-relationships-with-nazis/
https://tyburrswatchlist.substack.com/p/substackers-against-nazis
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/jan/03/substack-user-revolt-anti-censorship-stance-neo-nazis
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That's just the host though.
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The same could be said for places like Twitter/X. Personally, I wouldn't be willing to send my users to a platform that's been known to defend and even push Nazi ideology. It's like saying there are some nice tables at the bar with a swastika on the door.
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Looks like someone should send an email to media bias fact checker, they still qualify Dropsite as High credibility
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drop-site-news-bias-and-credibility/
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Cool. They also have a website that doesn't send people directly to the company that literally sent "Hey, check out these cool Nazis!" to everyone's phones.
Edit: To be clear, I don't know what link was shared and removed. I would allow dropsitenews.com (reluctantly because of the big Substack link at the bottom), but would block dropsitenews.substack[.]com. Overall, I would prefer that everything reputable moved away from Nazi sympathizers like Substack and X, but for some reason no one seems to want to. Bumping elbows with Nazis is apparently preferable to hosting your own website I guess.
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This whole "Substack is a Nazi platform" thing needs to die. In my opinion. Here's more about it:
I might revive !bullshit_narratives@quokk.au, I have run across other things I want to yell about in the same way without it really needing to be a huge offtopic argument in every thread where it comes up in passing.
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Tolerance can not tolerate intolerance. It's as simple as that. When you allow evil to spread, that's exactly what it's going to do, spread.
"Banning nazism is the first step to Zionism" is a fuckin' wild take, BTW.
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"Banning nazism is the first step to Zionism" is a fuckin' wild take, BTW.
You missed the part where I explained it happening precisely that way in Germany as of about a year ago, which I had predicted before it happened. So yes, that is how it happens.
I'm happy to talk more about it although I think I pretty much already said it all in that link, part of the point of making it as a separate post was so I wouldn't have to just keep repeating myself.
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Looks like an interesting community
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Yeah, I was lazy about it and maybe the whole endeavor is super pretentious in the first place, but I would really like to add "Bernie Sanders betrayed the Palestinians" and a couple other things to it now.
After the election, all the "I will never co-sign a genocide" people evaporated and I was speculating about what was going to come next. Now I'm starting to see a little steady stream of "NOBODY better support Bernie Sanders/AOC, he/she's the worst!" coming into the mix, and I feel like pushing back on that systematically is a worthwhile thing to do.
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