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Lemmy today
Lemmy today
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Not part of the discussion. You are straining pretty hard in your efforts to “win”.
I am making an example to prove a point. The point is simple "industry" doesn't contain the scammers who try to abuse it.
Yes, they do. The clue is in the name.
Genius take!
Answer the question, though. I repost it for your own convenience. We clear out all the bullshit semantic you brought up, and go straight to the point:
Let’s pretend you actually believe your bs, and let’s make a distinction:
Online casinos = established businesses in the casino industry, operating with at least a license. Fake casinos = scam websites that operate without a license and which spoof an online casino with the purpose of scamming users (in whatever way).To which ones do you think your initial answer applies:
They run rigged games in predatory ways. They happily let organised crime launder money for a cut. They fight regulations designed to reduce problem gambling.
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- Do you think that online casinos as defined above run rigged games?
- Do you think they help laundering money?
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The point is simple "industry" doesn't contain the scammers who try to abuse it.
It does. To illustrate this I linked to a bank website containing advice on combating phishing.
Here's the definition I'm happy with.
Legitimate casinos = established businesses in the casino industry
Fake casinos = scammers
Online casinos = legitimate casinos + fake casinos
Combined because users find it hard to tell the difference.
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Answer the question, your definition doesn't add much.
To which ones does your initial answer apply? Both legitimate and fake casinos?
It's not a hard question.
P.s. I bet you wouldn't be able to show me a fake casino if I asked. That's because they are not a common problem. You are overinflating it to make your absurd definition more reasonable. But let's not get into this...
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To which ones does your initial answer apply?
Online casinos.
I bet you wouldn't be able to show me a fake casino if I asked.
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Your definition of "legitimate casino" excludes any casinos that rig games.
All businesses with financial operations are exposed to money laundering to some degree.
Regulations increase costs to implement. Only "legitimate casinos" fight them.
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It's YOUR definition ahahah I literally took what you said and I am asking a question.
YOU said, legitimate + fake = online. I asked to which you applied the answer and you said online. Now you are saying it doesn't?
So, do we agree that legitimate casinos don't rig games?
Also, you mentioned taking a cut to help laundering money, now you are retracting saying "are exposed". No dude, taking a cut has intentionality behind, being exposed is a natural risk for any business which moves money. You claimed the first.
So, one last time:
- do legitimate casinos rig games?
- do legitimate casinos help laundering money?
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It's YOUR definition
Nope. It's you who is obsessed with separation of "legitimate casinos".
YOU said, legitimate + fake = online. I asked to which you applied the answer and you said online.
Correct
Now you are saying it doesn't?
Incorrect.
So, do we agree that legitimate casinos don't rig games?
You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don't rig games.
Also, you mentioned taking a cut to help laundering money,
Incorrect. I said casinos are used to launder money.
now you are retracting saying "are exposed".
No retraction necessary.
- do legitimate casinos rig games?
Online casinos rig games. You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don't rig games. A normal internet user cannot tell the difference.
- do legitimate casinos help laundering money?
Yes. Not necessarily knowingly. Income from internet gambling is tainted.
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Your quote:
Here’s the definition I’m happy with. Legitimate casinos = established businesses in the casino industry Fake casinos = scammers Online casinos = legitimate casinos + fake casinos
You forgot already? A link to your own comment.
You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don’t rig games.
I didn't define shit, you defined legitimate casino as a partition of online casino.
Look what triple jump you are making to avoid saying a very simple thing: legitimate casinos, defined as YOU did (established businesses in the casino industry) don't rig games. All because you can't admit to be wrong :)
So, I will ask once again:
- do legitimate casinos, as in YOUR definition, rig games, according to you?
Yes or no question.
Yes. Not necessarily knowingly. Income from internet gambling is tainted.
I would argue with this point, but I won't. It doesn't matter, I accept the theoretical possibility of money laundering. For some reason I was mistakenly taking the top comment of this thread as your comment. I even quoted it several times and you didn't note that that's not your comment... my bad.
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I didn't define shit
Here is your definition (not mine) where you separate "legitimate businesses" from "scam organizations"
I'm saying this line is not clear cut, particularly for the average Internet user. A yes/no answer is not possible.
I was mistakenly taking the top comment of this thread as your comment.
Easily done. Thanks for clarifying.
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Yes, but I am asking to answer according to your own definition! I specified it, I quotes it, I wrote YOUR in caps, I can't add flashing lights or I would.
You provided a definition, I am asking a simple question with that definition in mind.
According to YOUR definition, do legitimate casinos rig games?
Come on, how many more comments do you need to answer this simple query?
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