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Get off the train. A Pixel setup with Graphene OS never has such nonsense features. I even fully control my own notifications. A 2 year old device still has 2 days of battery life with lots of use, and I have no bloatware at all. It isn't like some difficult techie thing either. Updates are secure, automatic, and over the air.
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It's a shame that you still have to support Google by buying their phones to be able to use Graphene OS. I hope one day they'll support fairphone.
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It is not about that. The pixel has a TPM chip (Trusted Protection Module). This is similar to how secure boot works in desktop computers. It is a special external chip that has a secret internal cryptographic key that can never be accessed by anyone. This chip can be used to create secured communications between devices. This is how it is possible to do over the air updates securely and how the device's security can be checked with a special app and an external device like an old Graphene phone. All files on the device can be hashed with the secret key to determine of they have been changed. Other phones do not include a TPM chip and this is the primary reason they cannot be supported directly by Graphene.
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...and this is the primary reason they cannot be supported directly by Graphene.
This is phrased like a technical boundary. They are not supported because Graphene chooses not to support them. Not to say it would be easy, but they are making a choice to solely use Google's hardware.
They don't have to.
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Awesome. No (minimal at least) big adware tech for you!
Bummer app compatibility isn’t a guarantee but besides banks does everything work?
e: typo
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I have been using Graphene until last month (temporarily off it because my phone picked a fight with a rock and lost). So just going off memory. But compatibility is in a much better place these days. I don't recall having had any compatibility issues besides banking apps and "pay with phone nfc" over the last few years.
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I need to get on this train
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Show me a Pixel with two days of battery life with heavy use. My 8a lasts about a day, sometimes less. Similar reports for a friends 8a and my brother's 7a.
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Makes sense, but with that setup, a different custom rom on a phone with better life would deliver even better results.
I like my pixel, I like Graphene, but I still feel battery is a weak point.
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The way root is managed and the security of OTA updates along with the demonstrated knowledge of how Android users groups and SELinux effectively work are far superior to anything else I have seen in any ROM that I have run previously. Most others were little more than novel demonstrations of CVE vulnerability exploits and setups intended for oddball extra use cases and not a primary device in their implementation. Graphene is a legitimate ongoing secured solution well worth supporting. The TPM chip is a huge deal here.
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Sure, that's why I use it. My point was more that improved battery performance, at least to that degree, is a your-specific-usecase thing, not a Graphene thing.
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If vanadium was like a typical chromium browser, I'd still be burning battery. Vanadium is core to Graphene. It is part of webview which is how basically everything works on the device. Someone explained it to me a few years ago, bit I don't totally understand it. I got bad/typical battery life with a 4a and Firefox derivatives for privacy. It was only after I went to vanadium for everything that my battery life went much longer. Like, right now, I've had a bad health day so on my phone more than normal. It is 10:30 pm and I'm at 55% battery. I've watched around 2 hours of YT, played a few dozen rounds of Gauguin, read a few articles and spent a few hours on Lemmy today.
I default to 480p video with webp and I turn off my router's 2.4G and only use 5G. I'm also using auto reboot stuff in Graphene to clear anything in persistent memory and the same in the router. Those also help with battery.
It isn't just the network, and it isn't just Graphene, but it all plays a part.
The way Graphene does root is what actually sold me. Having root generally available on any android device is insane. Tethering root to USB debug is a great solution when combined with the TPM, OTA, and the Auth app.
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I have a OnePlus 7T, is there any way for me to do something like this? I've never messed around with my phone much unlike my PC.
Would I lose all my data?
Would I still be able to use my Chase banking and other sensitive apps?
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