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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up'
Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up'
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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up'
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Haters gonna hate. Still though, they'll need to be cordial if some of these critics are also paying Ukrainian bills. Being rude is the fast track to falling out of favor with foriegn taxpayers.
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Have you seen how Israel conducts diplomacy with the US?
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Well Zelensky did say that he was inspired by Israel and wanted to model Ukraine to be like Israel.
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By slaughtering innocent minorities and stealing their land?
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Yeah considering that's what they were doing in Donbass
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Even Prigozhin said that the supposed genocide in Donbas is 100% a Russian propaganda fabrication. Stop parroting that bullshit.
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So you agree with fascist mercenaries? Cool to know.
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I also think cake tastes good which aligns me straight with Hitler.
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Okay but people shouldn't take you seriously on cake if your argument is "Hitler agrees with my take on cake"
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How about me agreeing with Hitler on "Poland didn't attack Germany"?
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Hitler literally claimed that Poland attacked german soldiers.
https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/24/the-start-of-the-second-world-war-germany-invades-poland/
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Well in this case it's more like even Hitler said "the jews weren't so bad at all"
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Wouldn't it more be equivalent to Henry Ford or Hearst press during ww2 claiming that the nazis weren't brutalizing black and Jewish soldiers?
Nazi public figure claims nazis in enemy country aren't doing bad thing.
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You didn’t need to cite hitler as the cake lover, could have picked anyone else
You didn’t have to pick the fascist mercenary army leader to agree with you on the other one, either. Yet you did for some reason
Is this supposed to prove anything but you have no scruples?
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I mean hexbears are otherwise so willing to take Russian sources at face value, e.g. when it comes to claims about Russian speakers getting supposedly oppressed and genocided by the Ukrainian state... then why not trust Pregozhin? What makes him less trustworthy than Solovyov?
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I can’t speak for everyone, but I definitely don’t find Russian media particularly trustworthy, we like to do a little thing called critical thinking instead of just blindly accepting things
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I don't trust Russia, but Pringles was not exactly an uninpeachable source of truth himself
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If it's 100% fabrication then Trump shouldn't have been impeached
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Oh there's plenty of other reasons to impeach Trump. Why would he even be impeached over that, though. I don't really follow US news, it's silly over there.
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His first impeachment was over him extracting personal political benefit from sending weapons to Ukraine that they were using to carry out their ethnic cleansing
If the ethnic cleansing were 100% fabricated by Russian propaganda then the Hillary Cliintons of the USA are Putin bots.
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You are aware that Russia already invaded in 2014? That this war has been going on for a while? Why wouldn't the US send Ukraine aid to defend itself?
Regarding the US reaction back then in general, though: Why didn't the US enforce the Budapest memorandum?
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You are aware that Russia already invaded in 2014?
No they didn't. They were already there. The biggest feature of Crimea is the naval base that Russia had been leasing since Ukraine had a legitimately elected government. When the US supported Nazi led coup regime took power they tried to cancel the lease. The Russians simply stayed put. They didn't invade. They were already there.
Are there any more fundamental understandings of recent history you would like me to catch you up on?
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Ever wonder why they impeached him over some bullshit most people didn't give a fuck about in a country most people didn't know existed at the time instead of the mountains of evidence of his predatory behavior?
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No. Yanks impeached a President over a blowjob, that is, any- and everything.
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Nobody said there was a genocide as far as I know, but there were many ethnic cleansing attempts.
On the contrary calling Russia activities "genocide" was very common. Programmed morons.
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"You and I know what is happening in Donbass," referring to the conflict zone in the east of the country, adding that: "It certainly looks like genocide."
Putin has previously made similar comparisons about the war in eastern Ukraine including in 2015 and 2019.
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Ethnic cleansing of Russian speakers by what, a Russian-speaking army?
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By a government that passed laws against using their language and that detonated bombs on them
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No such law was ever passed. You might be missing some details such as the Ukrainian army largely operating in Russian.
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https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-language-law-russian/31656441.html
Note that I'm using an explicitly western funded propaganda vehicle for my citation. I didn't have to do that. I did it purposefully to clown on you.
Shut the fuck up. You just took a factual stand on a topic you did no research on. Your opinion is of no value. Stop sharing it.
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By a Ukrainian Nazi army. Are you not aware of this? This is basic stuff you need to know before commenting.
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Where do they get their tattoo inspirations from, Utkin?
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What, the guy that Putin just killed? sounds like he has a better track record of killing Nazis than you give him credit for
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Hot dog man dead
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the supposed genocide in Donbas is 100% a Russian propaganda fabrication
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They’re tired and weary from the onslaught of war fringe to safe their country from Putins aggression. Any dig at their progress is a dig at morale that spreads not only through the ranks, but also to the general public. There is a time for constructive criticism, but that should be done in private with actual solutions offered by those criticizing. I understand their needs to be some decorum but you can’t blame them for what I would consider a mild retort as their countrymen die trying to retake their land everyday.
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Yeah, but like, they are their worst countrymen. Nazis and such. No one in the war stands to win anything. They will still pay their landlords and the corrupt banks for the right to live in now freshly burned down houses. Wages will stay super low, the wartime reduction becoming a reconstruction reduction whenever it ends. Anyone from Ukraine who is able to escape the nazis ought to defect to Russia where they would be taken care of a little better.
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Yeah, but like, they are their worst countrymen. Nazis and such.
Regular people are being drafted, it's not just Nazis dying.
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I wouldn't die for a nazi would you?
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Hopping from a nation which employs fascist militia to a fascist-governed one isn't a solution to anything. All fascists involved suck shit but sheesh, let's not hope for a worse outcome
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what do you expect ukraine's internal politics to look like after the war?
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Like the Baltics post fall of the Soviet Union: Beeline for EU membership. Also Zelensky already said that Ukraine is willing to let go of Belgorod in exchange for NATO membership.
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They can fuck off. Europeans are already paying through the nose for America's terrorist attack on our infrastructure. Paying for America's latest war is not going to happen.
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And I was parroting it.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine at some point occupies some fields somewhere just to make sure that whoever's going to be in power after Putin will be disposed is going to sit down and talk reparations etc.
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But I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine at some point occupies some fields somewhere just to make sure that whoever's going to be in power after Putin will be disposed is going to sit down and talk reparations etc.
what kind of drugs are you on
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Belgorod, where is that?
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Full blown mess
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Interesting way of saying fascist
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Would be pretty fash to see it as a nice thing eh?
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Indeed seeing a fascist government and approving is pretty fash.
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Finally someone who understands
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Hopping from a nation which employs fascist militia to a fascist-governed one isn't a solution to anything. All fascists involved suck shit but sheesh, let's not hope for a worse outcome
Hopping from a country in which Nazism is official policy to one in which Nazism is outlawed. It really is exactly the same, which is why the people who say this always make excuses for Ukraine and the fascist dictatorship masquerading as democracy which is the USA.
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Nazism is outlawed
is it tho 🤨
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There’s a recent story about Russia’s rehabilitation of Nazism law here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65024254
It was implemented years ago, at which time the American corporate press did quite a lot of hand-wringing over protecting Nazis’ right to openly plan the extermination of Jews like me. When your own media sources are defending Nazism, maybe it’s time for a little self-examination and reflection?
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I'm not an Orlov expert, but it sounds to me like he's aligning with the West, which means aligning with Nazis. My point is that there is a law in Russia which says that you cannot rehabilitate Nazism. Though this law and its enforcement is imperfect, it is significant that such a law even exists, since we know that something like this could never exist in Ukraine or in the USA, since Nazism is so profoundly pervasive in these places.
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Whose media?
Maybe Putin didn't get the not-fash-memo 🤔
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When you respond to evidence with one-liners that amuse no one, you reveal yourself to be dwelling in a fantasy realm no different from the one inhabited by Nazis. That strategy didn’t work out well for them.
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It's not about decorum, it's about the pointless deaths of hundreds of thousands.
Not trying to hate, but you narrowed in on excusing Ukraine for saying a mean thing to the West and its supporters. Reexamine your priorities.
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Well said.
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