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3mo ago

AskReddit is over run by bots

Source : https://old.reddit.com/comments/1fmcelm

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~~Ask~~Reddit is over run by bots.
FTFY
- It's still okay for niche communities, and that's probably why people still go there
  
  This for sure. It's something severely lacking at Lemmy, without the large user base the small communities can't sustain the way they do on Reddit. Lemmy serves best as a replacement for the biggest subs.
  
  I noticed I'm not even missing the small subs anymore.
  4 different meme subs about an obscure Romanian soap opera don't improve my quality of life.
  
  Memes no, but I've found a lot of value in things like my hometown has a pretty active sub on Reddit which is useful for local information or subs around specific TV shows or video games bring a lot of interesting discussion or just asking questions on niche topics I'm much more likely to get an answer from a larger user base.
  
  My home town subreddit has seen at least 1 news years eve orgy organised through it, havent seen anything comparable on lemmy!
  
  Hobby subs are the big one. If your hobby is anything other than dicking around with Linux, we probably don't have much of a community for it, if we have one at all.
  
  Truth. RVs and sailboats are not here. But I feel confident I’d get all the discussion I need if I wanted to install Linux on my sailboat.
  
  Have you considered a Framework sailboat? They're a little more expensive, but they're designed with repairability in mind, and come with Linux pre-installed
  
  Framework sailboats are overpriced garbage!!
  You would be better off with a thinkboat x61s
  
  In all honesty the lack of super specific and active communities on lemmy has actually improved my quality of life. I spend much, much less time scrolling and reading shit.
  
  It's a valid point, but it's kind of like saying it's great that the restaurant you've started going to has such a small menu compared to the old one because you're not eating as much.
  
  I'm a picky eater so yeah that works for me
  
  The user volume to support niche communities is the most obvious thing missing in Lemmy. But I have a darker view of the future. Picture LLM bots forging organic-looking conversations that result in a product recommendation. It looks like a genuine human conversation, but it’s actually an advertisement. Maybe it’s mixed with some human comments, but that may only add to the realism of the fraud.
  That kind of ”advertising“ could potentially command a lot of money. And it could probably eventually infect just about any text platform. Maybe Lemmy as well someday?
  You could deploy it pretty effectively in sufficiently large niche communities.
  
  Picture LLM bots forging organic-looking conversations that result in a product recommendation.
  You are too late
  
  Thanks for the confirmation. Ugh.
  
  Yep I can confirm, I lived in my tiny reddit bubble a lot of time to care about trending shit and bots stuff.
  
  Exactly. In specific communities it's by far the best discussion platform. And I don't go to a site first discussion second, other way around, so to reddit I go for those.
  
  People go there because they don't care about interacting with other human beings. They just want an echo chamber and to occasionally feel like they are an Influencer.
  And you can see the same at lemmy. Someone posts something someone doesn't like? Immediate downvote (and, for the more pathetic people, downvoting on a few alts as well) with no comment or even attempt to refute things other than MAYBE an ad hominem. And plenty of "What is your favorite X" spam-engagement posts that just involve repeating whatever marketing schpiel they heard in the past.
  There has been a recent tendency for people to reference social media network sites that are nothing but bots and... it is increasingly obvious that that is what most people want. They want to feel like they are the tastemakers. They want to be moistcritical without needing to focus test the most normy of center-right takes.
  
  Someone posts something someone doesn’t like? Immediate downvote
  Well, yeah. That is what the button is for.
  
  It's supposed to be for bad faith posts/comments not just for disagreement
  
  I downvote comments that promote hateful ideologies, whether or no they were posted in bad faith. I also downvote posts that derail the conversation, whether or not I think they were posted in bad faith because it is impossible to know if someone is posting in good faith from an individual post. By the time a pattern is clear the thread is derailed.
  Context also matters, because the same post about grilled mushrooms as a substitute for grilled steaks will be posted in good faith to different posts and be a net positive or negative depending on the post. A post about grilling in general? Positive, because it adds to the topic! A post about the best cut of beef for grilling? Negative, because it derails the thread to be about not eating beef.
  Sure, people should not be downvoting non-important topics or views that they could just block instead. But a lot of people also assume bad faith when someone disagrees with them, so that isn't good criteria either.
  
  Those are also good reasons, i.e. more than just "I disagree"
  
  It's supposed to be for whatever the fuck you want to use it for. There's no downvote police on lemmy.
  Personally, I upvote every reply I get and nothing else.
  
  Ultimately, it's supposed to be used to make post/comments less visible, for whatever reason.
  
  And it doesn't really have much of an effect on lemmy at all.
  
  Sick burn and true, we have so few comments that we read all of them anyway.
  
  Sometimes it seems like Lemmy users sort by most negative first just so they can keep dogpiling on the comments with negative vote score.
  Which is a Reddit behaviour, and probably came from whatever existed before Reddit too.
  
  Yeah, I mean, sort by controversial is there for a reason.
  
  Yes, it's good to realise that lemmy is just as much an echo chamber as reddit is. Same echoes, differnet voice. But don't you dare actually having a different voice, that will not be appreciate. People want to have discussions, but only with yes men.
  
  stop saying the truth. it hurts their feelings.

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