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Whoever didn't renew their cellphone license won't ever see this

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Non-Brit, non-American here: what's this about?
- tldr; new UK laws are extremly privacy invading requiering ID and face photos to acces any explicit material including sites like Wikipedia, similiar to some USA state laws and it looks like EU might just follow.
  
  Oh. Thanks. But I knew that. "Cellphones" threw me off I guess.
  
  Oh they're making increasingly mundane things require a license. There literally is one for watching TV
  
  The money from paying for the TV licence pays for the BBC. You don't need a licence if you don't watch BBC channels/streaming.
  
  It’s any live broadcast, not just bbc
  
  The TV licence has been around since 1946. Are you able to name one "increasingly mundane thing that now requires a licence" which didn't previously?
  
  I am not advocating for it, but the EU at least tries to make it as anonymous as possible. They want to allow different trusted parties like banks or government agencies to give out certificates that can then be used to verify your age. So at least the end platforms don't get any private information
  
  There is no such thing as an age verification system that doesn't either directly lead back to your ID or is useless because it can be easily circumvented. If the certificates can't be traced back to you you can just hand them out to every teenager on the internet and you have a moral obligation to do so, and if they can it's the same as uploading your ID just to fix your steps, including a database that can be hacked to reveal all of the connections to all of the things or be accessed by a malicious government to persecute people who watch gay porn or something
  
  You could do it with zero-knowledge proofs.
  Not that anyone will. Maybe Norway or some shit.
  
  what's to stop me from verifying people who aren't me with them? I'll hand out zero-knowledge proof tokens to anyone who asks if they can't be traced back to me
  
  I'm not the right person to ask, as I only really have a basic, cursory understanding of how they work... But if they can prevent anyone except me from spending my Monero, I imagine someone could figure it out.
  
  They can't stop you giving your Monero keys to someone else, and then they can spend it, too. You not wanting other people to spend your Monero is key to it working, and that doesn't necessarily apply if, e.g. you've got family or close friends you'd be willing to have a shared wallet with.
  
  Client side verification, that only shares the verification/proof thumbs up to the requestor, could work in such scenario. Very similar to digital payment cards such as seen in Apple Pay. You verify with your biometrics, anyone can only use it in that brief moment of time, but you cannot share that card. When paying, the device will only quickly check key details of that card to execute payment.
  
  Client side verification is easy to bypass, so that doesn't work for anything. You just send back a firmly response with a modified app or something
  
  It works using encryption so it can't be traced back. But yes, you could technically share it with others
  
  The problem isn't hacking. It's buying a license to use the aggregate data for things like training and user data hoarding. It's all legal and buried in the fine print of B2B agreements and sometimes the EULA or a pop up under the guise of "convenience" or "security". Users usually agree to being safer or living easier.
  
  Any sort of discrimination scheme (and that is what this is) requires identification of the individual.
- The UK government have effectively repressed protests against the genocide in Gaza by classifying Palestine Action as a terrorist group.
  
  Careful mate. Once they're done arresting grannies they'll be coming for you.

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